Well - my apologies to Sarge - I really thought this would be a 'celebratory' thread and was trying to keep it in that vein. But I was obviously way off base as you guys are all over the 'other topic'. Have at you
Boone, threads develop a life and flow of their own and diverge and evolve just like normal conversations. Trying to limit or control them is both unrealistic and stifling. The best you can hope for is that the wheels don't go too far into the ditches on either side.
As to the main "topics" being discussed at this time I have a position that's probably going to be considered unusual.
I thoroughly enjoyed the win today over the Giants while at the same time am anxious for the Redskins to draft a "for-the-future" QB. The points made by Goaldeje and Henry are I think valid. It is a good sign that recent young draftees are playing well because when a new QB steps in it will be better and easier for him to achieve success if he has a base of competent support in the rest of the team and we are closer to that now than we've been in a while. At the same time I acknowledge that the probability of getting a "franchise level" QB likely does diminish as you move down the draft board-
but enough historical examples exist to indicate that it's only the
probability of finding one that fits the "potential franchise QB" label that may decrease slightly and not a guaranteed "well we missed our chance" failure.
Basically what I'm saying is that neither staked out position in the discussion can claim absolute "rightness" versus absolute "wrongness" here. I'm looking at a potentially optimal situation in which both sides have legitimate pros and cons that seem to negate each other but they aren't mutually exclusive. In other words-there are always trade-offs, but the existence of trade-offs only means that a combination of factors on both sides must be considered.
As a side note, speaking of historical examples I think it's apparent from past drafts that even if there are a number of really-good to potentially great QBs being touted early on that as the draft approaches they tend to start separating rather than all being clustered at the top of the draft. This happens for numerous reasons, good/bad combine performance, good/bad final college games, and NFL teams starting to be very analytical about how their particular team plays and which QB would be the best fit or could be molded into a good long-term fit. I mentioned in the chat room that I see possibly three of the currently top rated QBs going in the top ten and that's probably all. Even if we were to win out and our draft position were to drop it's likely we wouldn't have to trade up to one of the top three picks to get a QB that would fit.