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    1) Do you expect us to beat Miami?

    2) Do you want us to beat Miami?


    - Yes

    - No (I'll take shots for this)
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    I think you might need a choice for ambivalent, fansince.

    This applies to both questions, by the way.
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    I'm giving it a 2-4 year window. Looking for improvement in all areas. Redskins, you're on the clock.

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    Yes
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    Always want to win.

    Always.
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    "Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and **** the prom queen"

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    Yes on both but I won't be heartbroken with a loss.
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    No

    Does 1 win the rest of the way even matter? No, i'd rather get a higher pick than remember years from now how we defeated the mighty 1-8 Dolphins on our way to a 4 win season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by servumtuum View Post
    I think you might need a choice for ambivalent, fansince.

    This applies to both questions, by the way.
    THIS. I've lost all interest in watching this team. I guess I want them to win, but deep down I know that hurts our chances at a premiere QB in April's draft. So...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanky Livingston View Post
    THIS. I've lost all interest in watching this team. I guess I want them to win, but deep down I know that hurts our chances at a premiere QB in April's draft. So...

    My emotional state also. but we still sneak peeks until we can't suffer it any longer.

    beats Asylum...does it not?
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    Using the results of a losing season, after the fact, to maximize opportunity, is simple common sense.

    To root for failure, is a losers/quitters mentality, IMO.

    And, if you have it at all, it likely permeates into every part of your life. Whether you know it, or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ax View Post
    Using the results of a losing season, after the fact, to maximize opportunity, is simple common sense.

    To root for failure, is a losers/quitters mentality, IMO.

    And, if you have it at all, it likely permeates into every part of your life. Whether you know it, or not.
    tough guy eh?!!! I kid. I kid.

    would you have jumped onto a lifeboat were you a pax on the Titanic?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ax View Post
    Using the results of a losing season, after the fact, to maximize opportunity, is simple common sense.

    To root for failure, is a losers/quitters mentality, IMO.

    And, if you have it at all, it likely permeates into every part of your life. Whether you know it, or not.
    Well, this is why I get excited when the Redskins score a TD against the prevent defense, then convert the 2-pt play to be within 8. Then when Gano executes a perfect onsides kick and not one god damn Redskins player is even looking at the ball, I curse and scream and generally act the fool.

    Don't confuse disinterest or expectation of failure with rooting for failure.
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    I hope they win, yeah - do I expect it? Hell no.

    I was going to go to this game its 2.5 hours away and I can get a LL seat for $70... I'm either going fishing or sailing depending on the weather. No more Sundays wasted on this team. I leave for the Caribbean in a month and will work 4-5 months without a day off. I will download and watch sunday night, monday.
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    I expect them to lose, however I want them to win even though that hurts our draft position.

    We can lose every game the rest of the way as long as we BEAT DALLAS AT HOME !!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by fansince62 View Post
    tough guy eh?!!! I kid. I kid.

    would you have jumped onto a lifeboat were you a pax on the Titanic?
    Several things here.

    First, I would have never been on the Titanic, unless I had been hogtied and thrown aboard. Which means I would have immediately begun attempting to escape captivity, kill the sonsofbitches what did this to me, commandeer a lifeboat for myself and as many large breasted lactating women as I could find, and leave the Titantic, burning, and without a functioning radio.

    In other words, WINNING!!!
    Quote Originally Posted by Lanky Livingston View Post
    Don't confuse disinterest or expectation of failure with rooting for failure.
    I didn't.
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    I have no idea whether we win or lose, but I will always root for us to win! I cannot nor will I ever root for us to lose. I do not care about draft position because the most successful players we've drafted in the past 5 years have come at pick 13 and pick 16.

    It does not matter what position you are in the draft! Have you guys not learned that over the last 20 years? We are less than 50/50 with top 5 picks over the past 20 years.

    Fail
    Desmond Howard
    Heath Shuler
    Lavar Arrington
    Michael Westbrook

    Success
    Sean Taylor
    Chris Samuels
    Trent Williams

    I am being generous by putting TW in the success column.

    I was excited by the hiring of Allen and Shanahan and I am still convinced we are headed in the right direction. But they really haven't earned tremendous confidence in player acquisition, i.e. John Beck, Donovan McNabb, Jamaal Brown.

    You guys who are secretly wishing for us to lose for a better draft position seem to think it will garner us a better prospect if we are higher in the draft order? As we have painfully learned, there are no guarantees so I don't understand the thinking. Let's hope we lose so we can have a better draft position that may or may not be an asset.


    Question: Who was the best QB we've had in the past 20 years? Where was he drafted or how was he acquired?
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    The more things change...the more they stay the same. It's like deja vu all over again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ax View Post
    Several things here.

    First, I would have never been on the Titanic, unless I had been hogtied and thrown aboard. Which means I would have immediately begun attempting to escape captivity, kill the sonsofbitches what did this to me, commandeer a lifeboat for myself and as many large breasted lactating women as I could find, and leave the Titantic, burning, and without a functioning radio.

    In other words, WINNING!!!

    I didn't.

    crack me up! You always deliver Ax!!!!!
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    I expect us to lose, I would say I want us to lose but even then there is no expectation that we will draft a difference maker anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rymanofthenorth View Post
    I expect us to lose, I would say I want us to lose but even then there is no expectation that we will draft a difference maker anyway.
    That is my point. So why even hope to lose? This is our team! I can understand indifference, but to actually hope we lose?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rymanofthenorth View Post
    I expect us to lose, I would say I want us to lose but even then there is no expectation that we will draft a difference maker anyway.
    Our only points of reference are Trent Williams & Ryan Kerrigan, the two first-round picks Shanahan has had with the Redskins. Right now, Trent is still an unknown, but Kerrigan looks like a home run. At worst, that's 50/50 - I'd take those odds in Vegas in a heartbeat!
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    Yes and yes. Plain and simple I want W's more than high draft choices.
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    I probably wont expect a win again this season. I will always hope for one though.

    I'll worry about the offseason in the offseason.
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