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    Default So I think I had a premonition. Now after researching it's messing with my head.

    So, everybody dreams. Maybe not all the time, and we obviously don't remember all the details of them all the time. Then there are the recurring dreams. I have no idea what they mean, but I used to write down the details I remembered when I had a weird or a recurring dream. It's not that I think it's foreseeing anything, I just like to look back and read them over in case some weird **** ever goes down. Think of it like reference material I wrote in this notepad for roughly 15 years.

    So today, I was cleaning out some junk in my room. I came across the little notepad I used to write about my dreams in and realized I hadn't written in it since before Christmas. At that time, my 12 year old seemingly perfectly healthy Border Collie had been diagnosed with mammary cancer during a routine check up. We lost her on Christmas morning - a horrible day for the family and the kids, as they had never known a life without her, and she had the personality of a person. I realized that because of the trauma of dealing with that, I had quit writing about my dreams and never resumed.

    I decided to start reading through it for ****s and giggles to see what I had written about. Everybody I know has had a recurring dream, including me. Thing is, mine were usually once or twice a year. Up until 2008, I had the same 2 dreams for years. One about a tsunami, the other was about nuclear explosion. Then they just stopped and I thought nothing of it. I got to reading through this book and immediately thought about the tsunami and nuclear crisis in Japan. Granted, in my dream it was more like an atomic bomb and not a power plant, but the similarities were still strange to me. Oddly enough, while it did get my attention, this isn't the dream that made me start this thread.

    I got to some entries around Thanksgiving. I had detail for detail, the exact same dream for 3 consecutive nights. In that dream, I was in a large brick house with a lot of trees in the back yard and around the sides of the house. I walked with my wife to one side of the house, and there was a huge hole in the house where a plane had crashed into it. In my dream, a neighbor comes running up to help. In my dream, it was my neighbor named Shawn. The weird detail about this, was that he came up to help, but his idea of help was to put a new roof on the house, and just kept saying we needed a new roof and he had to get it done before he went to Florida. The only other detail I wrote down from the dream was April 10th. I can't remember for the life of me why I wrote down April 10th, but I wrote that date every time I had that dream.

    So today I was telling my wife and my dad about it. My wife is big into the dream interpretation stuff, but I always thought it was hogwash. She has one book in particular that claims if you have a recurring dream that suddenly stops, it could be foretelling. I thought nothing more of it, until my wife pulled up a news story that happened on April 10th of this year.

    On April 10th in Biddeford, ME a small plane crashed into a house. The house was large, it was brick, and there were plenty of trees all around the house. The plane crashed into the roof of the house and caught fire. These details alone were enough for me to get the chills.

    Then we saw where FAA officials identified the pilot as a 71 year old man from Florida. This was the Florida tie in from my dream. The only other detail I still wanted to find a clue for was the neighbor named Shawn. Not exactly a rare name, but not as common as the typical Sean spelling I have seen all my life. I was relieved to find out that the couple that lived in the house was Kim and Steve Meyers. Then on a hunch, my wife pulled up the White Pages online and discovered they had a neighbor named Shawn Walton. Same spelling.

    Needless to say, I about **** myself, and I don't know what to make of it. I am a believer in weird coincidences. I don't believe in god, I don't believe in ghosts, I don't believe in anything supernatural/paranormal and I am not superstitious. I think psychics/clairvoyants are lying bull**** artists, and I generally just believe things will happen as they do, and nothing, person or non person, can alter that.

    However, I can't deny the bat**** crazy similarities between my dreams that I have written down, and actual events that have occurred since the dreams stopped.

    SO I just want to know what everyone's opinion is on **** like this.
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    I'm not going to offer you an "opinion" here because that wouldn't be helpful.

    Instead I'm going to point you to information you may find useful in answering you question. This,for exzample, is an article by Steve Simon, his bio reads as follows:

    Steve Simon is an independent statistical consultant and a part-time (25%) faculty in the Department of Informatic Medicine and Personalized Health (U. of Missouri-Kansas City School of Medicine) He is author of a book (Statistical Evidence in Medical Trials. What Do the Data Really Tell Us.) and of two major website (StATS and P.Mean) that provide information about statistics, evidence-based medicine, and research ethics.
    He did an article in 2007 -Quantifying the ability of dreams to predict the future

    Here's the article link.


    http://www.childrensmercy.org/stats/...redictions.asp

    If I find something else potentially useful I'll post it. If you need me to dig around let me know.
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    My opinion? I think there's a lot going on in the world at any given time. The likelihood of our dreams occasionally lining up with those events, even with spooky accuracy, is pretty high. Look at it from another vantage point...how many times have you had apocalyptic or other memorable dreams that had no linkage whatsoever with anything going on in the world at that time? It happens repeatedly - yet those instances aren't memorable. So when a particular dream does seem prescient, it strikes us as amazing, when in fact, we should expect just from a statistical point of view for that to happen occasionally.

    I'm not ruling out that there may be some kind of innate ability in the human mind to sense coming events and for them to somehow manifest themselves while we sleep. I'm just saying the most simple explanation is most likely the accurate one. It's coincidence.

    I had a 'freaky' moment a couple of months ago. My daughter was telling me that, as part of a college application, she had to choose her single favorite word and describe what it meant to her in an essay. I blurted out 'Renaissance'. It was the same word she had chosen. Now you tell me, given all the words in the English language, what the odds are of my pulling out of thin air the exact word she chose. Of course, I know my daughter as well as any human on Earth, and that's got to come into the mix. But still...pretty freaky moment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boone View Post
    My opinion? I think there's a lot going on in the world at any given time. The likelihood of our dreams occasionally lining up with those events, even with spooky accuracy, is pretty high.
    This was word for word my original view on the subject. I really never believed in anything that I couldn't see with my own eyes. It's in my nature to naturally write it off as hocus pocus.

    Quote Originally Posted by Boone View Post
    Look at it from another vantage point...how many times have you had apocalyptic or other memorable dreams that had no linkage whatsoever with anything going on in the world at that time?
    Honestly? A lot. The only thing that makes what I mentioned in this thread, is the fact that they were recurring. Dreams I have once, I think nothing of. I've just always wondered if it meant anything to have the same dream over and over again with no specific trigger.

    Quote Originally Posted by Boone View Post
    I had a 'freaky' moment a couple of months ago. My daughter was telling me that, as part of a college application, she had to choose her single favorite word and describe what it meant to her in an essay. I blurted out 'Renaissance'. It was the same word she had chosen. Now you tell me, given all the words in the English language, what the odds are of my pulling out of thin air the exact word she chose. Of course, I know my daughter as well as any human on Earth, and that's got to come into the mix. But still...pretty freaky moment.
    That's some downright spooky **** there.

    I saw a show on Discovery Health one time about strange abilities of the human brain. It discussed how in rare cases, some people can use parts of their brains that the average person can't. There are also people that have sense heightened beyond explanation, that they also said was probably tied in with the brain.

    The reason I bring this up, is because when I was 17 and first entered the Army, one of the first things they did at reception for basic was do vision and hearing tests. I'm blind as a bat, so I failed the vision test miserably. I'm as close as you can be to legally blind without actually being legally blind.

    The hearing test was a different story though. They put me in a booth with headphones and a buzzer. I was told to hit the buzzer every time I heard a tone. I don't know how many tones there were, but after the test they informed me that I got every single one, something that isn't supposed to be possible. I heard the highest highs, the lowest lows, and everything in between. Maybe my hearing is heightened to compensate for my crappy vision, but who knows. All I know is, it explained a lot of weird things I had noticed my entire life.

    Are you ever thinking of a song, then you turn the radio on, and the song is playing? We all have I'm sure. I do that nearly every day, even old obscure songs. It creeps my wife out that I'll be singing a song, then turn on the radio and it will be at the exact spot I'm singing. Again, a freaky coincidence, but it happens almost daily. I don't know if it's just one of those weird things, or if somehow I'm subconsciously picking up radio waves in my head. I have also always been able to tell when a tv or other electronic device is on, just because even when it's quiet/muted I can still hear the buzzing of the sound waves. This drives my kids nuts, because they can never get away with watching tv when they should be in bed

    Another weird thing - ever since I was little, I have been able to do something with my body that I could never explain to a doctor. It's a weird sensation I can create within my body, almost like a small electric shock. As a kid, I tried stupid things like trying to light a light bulb without it being in a lamp, but that **** never worked. Then I read a book that was talking about how certain people can control electronic flow within their body, and there is no explanation for it, or known benefit.

    The first time I tried to see if I could get some kind of reading on this, I was getting an EKG. The doctor hooked it up, I made my body do whatever it is, and the doctor had to redo the test after reading the printout. The reason he gave was that the test was flawed, because according to the readings, everything was going to the extreme highs and lows. He did the test again, I didn't do it the second time, and it came back normal.

    Years later, I was having migraines really bad and severe insomnia. They put me in a sleep study and hooked the little things to my head and chest and watched me sleep. After the study was over and the results were all certified, I was informed that I had an abnormally high level of brain waves when I was sleeping. More interestingly, it showed my brain was more active and lit up more after I had fallen asleep than it was while I was awake. The other thing they noted was that the part of your brain that translates colors that your eyes are seeing, was visibly lit up on the monitor. This meant nothing to me until they told me that it's supposed to shut off when you fall asleep, and they say that's how they know people dream in black and white.

    Is all this tied together somehow? I honestly have no idea. I don't know what any of it means, it is just one of those strange things I have never received a clear explanation of.
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