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Redskins Name Doug Williams Senior Vice President of Player Development

The truth is nobody knows how this is going to go.

Walsh was 2-14 his first year in SF, Vermeil was 5-11 with the Rams.

A couple of years later both teams won the Super Bowl.

Vermeil was known at the time as a respected coach who couldn't win the big game, losing to the Raiders in SB XV.

That's similar to Rivera in Carolina. He made the team respectable and took them to a Super Bowl and lost to the Broncos.

He could show better OR worse here.

People talk about SB wins, but from what I see many SB coaches like Jimmy Johnson, George Seifert, Mike Shanahan often fail in their next gig.

Meanwhile a lot of coaches fail in their first job and end up learning some lessons and winning in their next stop.

And if Joe Flacco and a one-armed Peyton Manning can win the Super Bowl there is no reason a player with Haskins skills can't mature and take a team that far.
 
Elephant said:
Nah...you spent time in jail, I don't trust you weren't turned out, but thanks anyway.
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I laughed too hard at that. I have to admit that's a pretty good comeback. But no, that was never an issue for 2 reasons....

1. Respect actually exists in prison oddly enough. 2. Hollywood's version of prison couldn't be further from reality.
 
Fear The Spear said:
I think it can vary greatly from one prison to another
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Likely true, but I went through 3 different custody levels, and at all 3 prisons respect was something nobody took lightly. The level of respect and manners the vast majority of people had blew my mind. Completely unexpected. Up here I was a correction's officer several years ago, but I never paid it much attention.
Fear The Spear said:
Can substitute the word "everything" for the word "prison"
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Very true.
 
Curiosity question: what is the respect based upon? Power/threat of violence?
 
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