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Burner's Burning Questions: Free Agency, Mocks, Camps, OTAs, Roster Predictions, 2019

Re: Burner's Burning Questions: Free Agency, Mocks, Camps, OTAs, Roster Predictions,

Be honest. Who turned the draft off, between the 15th and the 26th pick ?


I wanted to see what the Pats were going to do (i.e., see if all the pre-draft malarky vis deebo or grier had substance). Was surpised when I looked up and saw the Skins on the clock at 26. "What the heck?!!" I love the pick.

You won the need versus best talent available argument Fear! Congrats. I think the pick was a big, big mistake but only time will tell. Many media pundits absolutely love him. I read many technical analyses that focused on his limitations that raised flags for me. We won't know until we see how Haskins rates out compared to the other QBs in the NFCE over time - and how next year's QB crop pan out (opportunity cost). Had I been running the daft I would have traded down from 15, stocked more picks and aquired yet more players in a talent rich draft for a team with holes all over the map. That said, we know they made substantial effort to replenish the o-line during free agency and they did sign a quality safety (finally!). So we'll have to see how all the parts fit together and whether the other NFCE teams did a comparatively better or worse job retooling/improving their rosters.
 
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Re: Burner's Burning Questions: Free Agency, Mocks, Camps, OTAs, Roster Predictions,

ANyione have an idea why Lock has dropped so far?
 
Re: Burner's Burning Questions: Free Agency, Mocks, Camps, OTAs, Roster Predictions,

ANyione have an idea why Lock has dropped so far?

For starters - he isn't very accurate. Folks who like his arm (and he has a great arm) and mobility will make excuses for him only exceeding 60% completion rate one out of four years but 4 years is a pretty good pool of data. He struggles with accuracy. I think it's that concern, his inconsistency, and honestly, he presents himself like a 17 year old in terms of maturity. He's every bit as much a project as Haskins is, maybe more so.
 
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Looking for a guard, and a WR/TE tonight.
 
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Burner's Burning Questions: Free Agency, Mocks, Camps, OTAs, Roster Predictions, 2019​

Greetings from BBQ to everyone in BGO land and guests from social media – we hope you become a member here.

It's draft week and we are now into day two of the festivities! The draft is here! What an amazing first round! Free agency has entered a dormant phase and should pick up again after May 7. We now have a few ideas about what the team needs following the draft. The process of team building never ends and BBQ is about to take a look at what could happen this spring and summer.

Today we bring you the day two mock and it features two trades. BBQ has always believed that trades could happen during the draft and it appears as if we are heading in that direction.

Will BBQ match or surpass the success that it had with the 2018 mocks? It will be difficult and very challenging, but it is a task that we embrace. With that kind of success, we truly believe it helps the members of BGO to focus on the players who are prospects that the Redskins are seeking. It feels good to provide everyone here with the kind of service you expect from BBQ.


Upcoming Dates:
- Days until the NFL Draft: Continuing Today
- Days until OTAs: 24
- Days until mandatory mini-camp: 41
- Days until the first NFL preseason game: 97
- Days until the 2019 Regular Season Opener: 132

Without any further delays, let's take our latest look at the 2019 draft with this mock.


*****Official Selections*****

Here is what I wrote about Dwayne Haskins when I mocked him in the first round earlier this week. Looks like BBQ was able to pinpoint it.
Round One: Dwayne Haskins, QB, Ohio St.
By demonstrating patience and remaining true to their draft board, the Redskins land the talented quarterback from Ohio St. The front office takes the option of having an experienced NFL starter to begin the season as the starter and let Haskins learn as the season progresses. Haskins is a winner, but not a lot of starts at OSU. Very good accuracy. Needs to be in a system that relies on quick reads and not dropping back too far in the pocket. Good pocket awareness and decent arm strength. Good fit for the Gruden WCO system.


I mocked Montez Sweat many times during the off-season. We predicted a trade in the first round many times, but not a trade up. Here is the write-up that I used for Sweat in recent months.
Round One: Montez Sweat, Edge/OLB, Mississippi St.
Sweat is a massively sized edge and most pundits rank him as the third or fourth best OLB in a very loaded class of edge rushers. He is likely to have an immediate impact and an impressive rookie season. Sweat dominated the NFL Combine and established himself as a top tier prospect. The only issue is his health – a heart condition. The Mississippi St. Bulldog is a likely starter from day one and will be a terror to opposing quarterbacks.


And now, here is our Day Two mock draft.


Round Two:
The Redskins no longer have a pick in this round, but we are listing possible choices if the front office decides to trade up.

Possible Picks:
Nasir Adderly, FS/SS, Delaware
Kelvin Harmon, WR, North Carolina St.
Cody Ford, G/OT, Oklahoma
Parris Campbell, WR, Ohio St.
A.J. Brown, WR, Mississippi
D.K. Metcalf, WR, Mississippi
Deebo Samuel, WR, South Carolina
Hakeem Butler, WR, Iowa St.
Taylor Rapp, FS, Washington


Round Three: Trade
The Redskins trade down to the latter portion of round three and add fourth and sixth rounders.


Round Three: DaMarkus Lodge, WR, Mississippi
DaMarkus Lodge receives far less attention than his fellow receivers at Ole Miss, but he is very talented and could offer excellent value at this juncture. Mississippi has a limited offense playbook and the receivers suffered to a certain degree. Lodge should be in the conversation for one of the better receivers in a very stacked class, but Ole Miss standouts A.J. Brown and D.K. Metcalf grab more attention from draft analysts. Solid receiver. Good speed. Great blocker. Excellent size. Easily creates separation. Legitimate red zone target. Able to gain extra yardage after a reception. Could have a better career than Metcalf and Brown – under the right circumstances.

Other Possible Picks:
Riley Ridley, WR, Georgia
Caleb Wilson, TE, UCLA
Andy Isabella, WR, Massachusetts
Irv Smith, TE, Alabama
Kahale Warring, TE, San Diego St.
Rock Ya-Sin, CB, Temple
Jace Sternberger, TE, Texas A&M
J.J. Arcega-Whiteside, WR, Stanford
Armani Hooker, FS, Iowa
Ryan Finley, QB, North Carolina St.
Deionte Thompson, FS, Alabama
Connor McGovern, OC/OG, Penn St.
Mack Wilson, ILB, Alabama (Character Issues)
Michael Deiter, OG, Wisconsin


Round Three (Comp Pick): Trade
The Redskins trade their compensatory pick in the third round and gain fourth and seventh rounders.


Round Four: Nate Davis, OG/OT, UNC-Charlotte
Nate Davis is a good tackle/guard prospect, but his greater potential is definitely on the inside. Solid in the rushing offense and very good in pass protection. Very good hand/foot coordination and rarely makes costly mistakes. Nice speed allows him to pull and lead on sweeps and screens – good downfield blocker. If he can add about ten pounds of bulk, Davis will be a roster lock for a decade or more.

Other Possible Picks:
Dru Samia, OG, Oklahoma
Miles Boykin, WR, Notre Dame
Hunter Renfrow, WR, Clemson
Isaac Nauta, TE, Georgia


Round Four: Terry McLaurin, WR, Ohio St.
McLaurin is overrated by some talent evaluators and underrated by others. He has a limited body of work from his time as a Buckeye, but he could offer good value at this juncture of the draft. Familiarity with Dwayne Haskins is an added bonus. Solid route runner on the shorter patterns, but not a burner when the field is stretched. Compares to a younger Pierre Garcon, but will need some time to adjust at the next level. Very good blocking skills on longer runs and various passes downfield. He will likely never be a WR1, but could become a very good WR2.


Round Five: Foster Moreau, TE, LSU
Foster Moreau would be a work in progress during his first year in the league, but he is 6'6”, 260. You can't teach size and he has superb blocking skills. In the “Needs Work” category, the Cajun County Bayou Bengal will need to spend some time learning various routes and putting time into becoming a better receiver. However, his potential as a receiver is quite good, but it will likely take a year. He has flashed potential many times and had a solid week at the Senior Bowl.

Other Possible Picks:
Iman Marshall, CB, Southern California
Max Scharping, OT/OG, Northern Illinois
Maxx Crosby, Edge/OLB, Eastern Michigan
Devine Ozigbo, RB, Nebraska
Stanley Morgan, WR, Nebraska
Khalen Saunders, DT, Western Illinois
Terry Godwin, WR, Clemson
Lester Cotton, OG, Alabama
Corbin Kaufusi, DE/OLB, Brigham Young
Carl Granderson, OLB, Wyoming
Juwan Johnson, WR, Penn St.


Round Five (Comp Pick): Easton Stick, QB, North Dakota St.
Could the Redskins actually add two quarterbacks in the draft? Absolutely. Easton Stick has been steadily rising on draft boards for several months now. He's a winner and there have been a few whispers that Stick is a better prospect than another Bison product – Carson Wentz. That's likely a reach - comparisons aside, Stick can make all the throws accurately. He is also accurate on the run. Consistently goes through his progressions quickly. NDSU utilizes a pro-style system. Very good mechanics. Solid pocket passer, but can effectively scramble when needed – perhaps a bit too much.


Round Six: Saivion Smith, CB, Alabama
The Redskins head back to the Tuscaloosa supply line and add a late round cornerback. Smith is raw, but has plenty of potential. Will need to make his mark on special teams early in his career, but could be a starter in the slot within a year. Does not have blazing speed and likely will never transition beyond being in the slot. However, as a slot corner Smith should be able to cover tight ends and running backs with varying degrees of success. Good against the rushing offense. Solid tackling skills.

Other Possible Picks:
Khalil Hodge, ILB, Buffalo
Chuma Edoga, OT, Southern Cal
Mecole Harman, WR, Georgia
Gardner Minshew, QB, Washington St.
David Sills, WR, West Virginia
Garrett Brumfield, OG, Louisiana St.
Tre Watson, ILB, Maryland
Kingsley Keke, DE/DT, Texas A&M
Shareef Miller, OLB, Penn St.


Round Six (Comp Pick): Blake Cashman, ILB, Minnesota
Cashman is a talented and highly underrated inside linebacker. He played in obscurity in the great white north and while the Golden Gophers are not followed closely in the football world, Cashman quietly made a name for himself against quality competition. A bona fide tackling machine. Always around the football and making plays. Solid against the run, but struggles somewhat in coverage. Good speed – can close on the ball quickly. Will need to make his mark initially as a special teams ace.


Round Seven: Joe Dineen, ILB, Kansas
Joe Dineen is a tackling machine and is superb in both the rushing defense and pass coverage. However, he will need to make his marks on special teams early in his career. He is deceptively quick and rarely makes mistakes. If Dineen can find his niche as a special teamer and as a quality backup as a linebacker, then his career in the NFL could be a lengthy stay.

Other Possible Picks:
Jaylen Smith, WR, Louisville
Ryan Pope, OT, San Diego St.
Ulysees Gilbert, ILB, Akron
Renell Wren, DT, Arizona St.
Sean Bunting, CB, Central Michigan
Sione Takitaki, ILB, Brigham Young
Jalen Hurd, WR, Baylor
Dakota Allen, ILB, Texas Tech
Nate Herbig, OG, Stanford
Keelan Doss, WR, California, Davis
Daylon Mack, DT, Texas A&M
Kendall Blanton, TE, Missouri
Eric Dungey, QB, Syracuse


Round Seven: Olamide Zaccheaus, WR, Virginia
How would you like a receiver who has running back skills and combines his talents to look like a Larry Centers and Chris Thompson type of player? Highly underrated. Lack of height will hurt him in the draft (5'8”, 200), but he has the speed and power to be a much more durable player than Thompson. He has been the leading receiver for Virginia over the years.


Round Seven (Comp Pick): Ului Lapuaho, OT, BYU
It's no secret that Ty Nsekhe struggled this past season in backup duty and he has moved on to the Buffalo Bills anyway. Ului Lapuaho at 6'7”, 330 is similar in size to Nsekhe and would bring a youthful infusion to the tackles. Hailing from the state of Utah, the massive lineman has served his Mormon mission (Australia) and is likely ready to be a quality backup at the next level.


UDFA Prospects
Kevin Wilkins, DT, Rutgers
Cody Thompson, WR, Toledo
Nick Linder, OC/OG, Indiana
Chris Slayton, DT, Syracuse
Preston Williams, WR, Colorado St. (Character Issues)
Jimmy Moreland, CB, James Madison
Sterling Sheffield, OLB, Maine
Trevon Wesco, TE/FB, West Virginia
KaVontae Turpin, WR/KR, Texas Christian
Cole Herdman, TE, Purdue
Chris Peace, OLB, Virginia
Tyler Roemer, OT, San Diego St. (Character Issues)
Jack Fox, P, Rice
Olive Sagapolu, DT, Wisconsin


In Conclusion

The Redskins comp picks are as follows: Rounds 3, 5, 6, and 7. Comp picks can be traded.

There is your latest mock today. We will have a round four through seven mock tomorrow morning.
 
Re: Burner's Burning Questions: Free Agency, Mocks, Camps, OTAs, Roster Predictions,

Personally, I would not want us to draft another QB.

Thought it was a mistake when we drafted Greedy Lyin' Bastard.
And I think it would be a mistake now.

The QB room is full, for now. IMHO
 
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The QB room is full, for now. IMHO

Really? With Case Keenum and a couple guys with one leg? That's got 3 wins now and forever written all over it.

I don't know anything about Haskins. I don't know if he's any good or what. But this team was in arguably the worst QB situation in the entire league. You've GOT to, at the very least, prepare for the future at the most important position on the team. Somebody to groom. Some way to work out of the awful situation we put ourselves in.

Once Cousins left, drafting a QB was almost inevitable. Alex Smith, even before he went down, was a rental, and someone was going to have to join the team as a potential future starter sooner or later.

I just don't see the logic in leaving a gaping hole at QB.
 
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A.J. Brown and Nate Davis please.

And no huge brain farts. No white safeties or defensive backs that have "high character" or are "great in the locker room" and have played only one season like Troy Apke last year.

We're off to a great start.
 
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Colt, Case, Haskins, Josh, and Alex playing the roll of mentor.

The room is full. If Colt, Case, and Haskins all go down, then we'll be in line for Tua next year.
 
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BB,

Absolutely LOVE the Terry McLaurin selection in your mock! That dude is my favourite player in this entire draft. I'd be over the moon thrilled if we can bring in a guy of his character and intangibles at WR.

While the front office hit a home run in the first round, I think we still need to be a bit cautious as a fan base heading into Day 2 of the draft. We've had a few head scratchers in recent memory in rounds 2 and 3. Jones, Cravens, Anderson, and Christian come to mind, even though the book is yet to be fully written on the likes of Anderson and Christian. It's imperative we hit on our picks tonight - these are the rounds where championship teams are built.

On an interesting side note...I'm trying to find a few patterns in recent years on Day 2 of the draft. When you consider the likes of Fabian Moreau (81st overall, 3rd round) and Kendall Fuller (taken 84th overall, 3rd round), these were both guys, that if memory serves me correct, were considered players that could have had much, much higher draft positions had it not been for injury concerns in college. In the case of Moreau, some had him tagged as a first round talent. I wonder if we go down this same road tonight and try to snag a player or two in the third of this variety? Guys with really good value, regardless of position, that could step in and potentially compete for a starting position on this roster. Or, will it be a case of best WR available for instance? How we proceed in round 2 or 3 tonight might very well tell you what this organization thinks of Josh Doctson and Paul Richardson.
 
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Colt, Case, Haskins, Josh, and Alex playing the roll of mentor.

The room is full. If Colt, Case, and Haskins all go down, then we'll be in line for Tua next year.

Ah, gotcha. I don't think we need any more QBs either.

Carry on. :)
 
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Just trying to be realistic, Henry.

For the sake of all the players on the team, we better damn well try to win now, while preparing for the future.

Haskins, for now, is that future.
Colt already able to start, if healthy.
Keenum has to learn the system. But he's a vet, so he shouldn't need as much attention as Haskins.
Haskins, has to learn the league, AND the system.

It will be all the coaches can do to get Keenum ready, while also hoping Haskins is a quick learner. Having to spend time trying to teach another rookie just steals reps from Keenum, and Haskins.

Josh is just a OTA/camp arm.

Alex can be a presence in the film room.
 
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"We're building a team, not collecting talent." --Bill Belichick on the importance of drafting for need over BPA.

The rest of this draft is pretty simple.

We just lost Crowder to FA. That leaves us with Paul Richardson coming off another injury, Josh Doctson and Trey Quinn as our WR's.

Unless we want to see Haskins taking sacks, it's WR early and often the rest of this draft. Trade up into the second if necessary. We likely need to hit on two of them before the end of the 5th round.
 
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"We're building a team, not collecting talent." --Bill Belichick on the importance of drafting for need over BPA.

When you're in a position where you rarely draft a player because you need a starter, it's easy to say you draft for need. When a team has 6-8 holes, it should always be BPA.
 
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Just trying to be realistic, Henry.

For the sake of all the players on the team, we better damn well try to win now, while preparing for the future.

Haskins, for now, is that future.
Colt already able to start, if healthy.
Keenum has to learn the system. But he's a vet, so he shouldn't need as much attention as Haskins.
Haskins, has to learn the league, AND the system.

It will be all the coaches can do to get Keenum ready, while also hoping Haskins is a quick learner. Having to spend time trying to teach another rookie just steals reps from Keenum, and Haskins.

Josh is just a OTA/camp arm.

Alex can be a presence in the film room.

Right. When I read your first post I thought you were saying we shouldn't have drafted ANY quarterbacks.

If you were saying we don't need to draft any more beyond Haskens, I agree with you.

As far as winning now ... I don't think that's very likely. Maybe we can ride our defense to 8 wins. I think that's our best case scenario, unless Haskens is the next Great Thing or something else crazy and unforeseeable happens. There are just way too many holes on offense. Seriously, what DON'T we need on offense?
 
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"We're building a team, not collecting talent." --Bill Belichick on the importance of drafting for need over BPA.

The rest of this draft is pretty simple.

We just lost Crowder to FA. That leaves us with Paul Richardson coming off another injury, Josh Doctson and Trey Quinn as our WR's.

Unless we want to see Haskins taking sacks, it's WR early and often the rest of this draft. Trade up into the second if necessary. We likely need to hit on two of them before the end of the 5th round.

All due respect...that's not what building a team means. That concept speaks to character, ability to work together, unity of purpose - everything a superior talent can do as well as a check-in-the-block, address a need, body of the day.

It's further nuanced coming from a coach who is unique for devising schemes and strategies that exploit exposing team's weaknesses masterfully while masking/underplaying his own team's weaknesses - i.e., "do as I say; trust me; experience shows my way, the Pariot way, works." And then, of course, there is Tom Brady to make it all work.
 
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I list Easton Stick as a possibility in the fifth round for a reason.

First, Case is going to be here for one year and then he will be gone. Colt McCoy could be on his way out sometime soon. Alex Smith is nothing more than a mentor now - a very good mentor at that.

With the extra draft capital in the fifth round, it might be a good idea to add a long term backup QB. Stick fits that profile. Brett Rypien could slide to that pick and he would be a good option as well.
 
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"We're building a team, not collecting talent." --Bill Belichick on the importance of drafting for need over BPA.

The rest of this draft is pretty simple.

We just lost Crowder to FA. That leaves us with Paul Richardson coming off another injury, Josh Doctson and Trey Quinn as our WR's.

Unless we want to see Haskins taking sacks, it's WR early and often the rest of this draft. Trade up into the second if necessary. We likely need to hit on two of them before the end of the 5th round.
Respectfully disagree. We definitely need to hit on at least 1 WR. However, we are going to have to rely on running the ball. LG, and a TE that can at least fall down in the path of a defender, are more important than WR. Richardson and Doctson aren't near as bad as some believe. If Quinn, and hopefully Sims can both step up, we'll be alright. But we must be able to run. Guice and AP need more help up front.

When you're in a position where you rarely draft a player because you need a starter, it's easy to say you draft for need. When a team has 6-8 holes, it should always be BPA.
BPA is always the way to go. Unless the talent difference is minor.

Right. When I read your first post I thought you were saying we shouldn't have drafted ANY quarterbacks.

If you were saying we don't need to draft any more beyond Haskens, I agree with you.

As far as winning now ... I don't think that's very likely. Maybe we can ride our defense to 8 wins. I think that's our best case scenario, unless Haskens is the next Great Thing or something else crazy and unforeseeable happens. There are just way too many holes on offense. Seriously, what DON'T we need on offense?
Yeah, definitely meant we don't need to draft another QB.
And unless we have a repeat of the last 2 years, injury wise, we will play meaningful games in December.
Hang in there brother.

And then, of course, there is Tom Brady to make it all work.
Boom!

Once he's gone a season or 2, the Belicheat comes crashing back to Earth. Of course, if he's smart, his retirement speech will follow 5 minutes behind Brady.
 
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So what are the odds we trade both 3rd's for a shot at either Hakeem Butler or DK Metcalf in the 2nd? Not sure how many #1 wr starters are going to be left by the time we pick in the 3rd.
 
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I list Easton Stick as a possibility in the fifth round for a reason.

First, Case is going to be here for one year and then he will be gone. Colt McCoy could be on his way out sometime soon. Alex Smith is nothing more than a mentor now - a very good mentor at that.

With the extra draft capital in the fifth round, it might be a good idea to add a long term backup QB. Stick fits that profile. Brett Rypien could slide to that pick and he would be a good option as well.

If they know they're gonna cut Alex and Colt before the season, then I'd say go ahead and draft a late rounder. Can't stash anyone.
So, opening day, we can carry only 3 QB's.
Haskins, Case, late rounder? 3 guys that don't know the system.
Alex and Colt on PUP?

I don't see it happening.
 

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