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    Quote Originally Posted by Boone View Post
    I don't know that that's true, but it's an interesting proposition. Thing is, no presidential candidate has ever picked a running mate MORE popular than they are. I think that's an imperative that is as close to guaranteed as any edict could be...


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    What's disheartening to me is that a self admitted Socialist is that popular.

    Have they removed Civics courses from school?
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    That's the one big card that she can still play that could seriously change the game in terms of mobilizing a base and impacting voter turnout.

    If I'm the GOP, I'm praying that Hillary's numbers don't absolutely tank before the convention.
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    Sanders is a very rare breed. He believes what he says. He can potentially use his new found popularity to a much better end in the Senate then he ever could as Veep, where he would be expected to tow Hillary's line or never be heard from again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Sanders is a very rare breed. He believes what he says. He can potentially use his new found popularity to a much better end in the Senate then he ever could as Veep, where he would be expected to tow Hillary's line or never be heard from again.
    That's possible. But life is short and he's 74 years old.

    I would think he might enjoy one shot at the WH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DieselPwr44 View Post
    What's disheartening to me is that a self admitted Socialist is that popular.

    Have they removed Civics courses from school?
    He's not close to being a socialist. If you tall to true socialists they laugh at Bernie's right wing propensities.

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    That sounds funny - but he has self- identified as a 'democratic socialist'. All things are relative - but I absolutely think his core beliefs are founded in socialism.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Boone View Post
    That sounds funny - but he has self- identified as a 'democratic socialist'. All things are relative - but I absolutely think his core beliefs are founded in socialism.


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    I don't argue that - but I think it's also fair to argue that many of the proposals semi-socialist Bernie Sanders has made are pretty outrageous and arguably incompatible with the foundations this country was founded on.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Goaldeje View Post
    Sure. There is, however, a difference between Democratic Socialism and straight up Socialism.

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    He's a socialist Goal. His NE campaign advisor is literally my nextdoor neighbor. And a great friend of mine for 23 years. He's a huge socialist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elephant View Post
    You give the general public too much credit, they don't read his twitter.

    Since you do, can you give me 5 examples of something he's tweeted that are so terrible, you think the criminal Hilary is a better choice?
    Just five?

    I'm not sure where to start.

    "Do you believe that highly overrated political pundit ‪@krauthammer said this is the best Republican field in 35 years. What a dope!"

    "@KarlRove just totally bombed on @Morning_Joe. @FoxNews has him on even though he has lost all credibility - a loser! Fox should dump Rove."

    "I refuse to call Megyn Kelly a bimbo, because that would not be politically correct. Instead I will only call her a lightweight reporter!"

    "A big fat hit job on @oreillyfactor tonight. A total waste of time to watch, boring and biased. @brithume said I would never run, a dope!"

    "I have a judge in the Trump University civil case, Gonzalo Curiel (San Diego), who is very unfair. An Obama pick. Totally biased-hates Trump"

    Five doesn't even begin to paint a picture. He makes literally 100s of statements like this, all the time. It establishes a very long and very well documented pattern of behavior in which he plays the victim and lashes out like a child. Over and over and over again. If he were a poster here he'd have been banned a long time ago, and this is a man who wants to be president of the United States. Sorry, whether or not I agree with the man (or the woman) I need the president to be the Adult In The Room. I need to know that that person is going to maintain a certain minimal level of civility, decorum and respect for himself, his position, and for others. Hillary Clinton is a lot of things, but she at least ... at LEAST she has the common sense to know when to not act like an infant. There's more to being president than 'not being part of the elite' or whatever. You HAVE to work with others. You HAVE to be able to show at least a modicum of pragmatism.

    Let's look at an example of something I actually agree with Trump on: Ruth Bader Ginsburg's recent comments. What she said was completely inappropriate for a SC Justice to make. She should have kept herself out of the election.

    Trump's response? "Her mind is shot - Resign!"

    And then "If I win the Presidency, we will swamp Justice Ginsburg with real judges and real legal opinions!"

    Insults and grade-school level threats.

    Many other conservatives commented, like adults, about why what Ginsburg said was inappropriate, and she did eventually apologize. That's how things should work amongst adults.

    What is disturbing about Trump is this pattern of his. No matter what the criticism or who it is ... Insult. Attack. Threaten. The media doesn't make him out to be this way. He does it all by himself. Literally, all by himself.

    It may adorable for a reality star to act that way. For a president? A very dangerous mindset for a president to have.

    Sine we're all into showing examples, feel free to provide an example of a time when he has ever shown another gear.
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    Sanders is a socialist. He's not a communist, but he is a socialist. And he will not be the VP pick. Hillary wants someone who will sit down and shut up once the election is over. That ain't Bernie.

    My guess is Tim Kaine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry View Post
    This election isn't about Obama. Obama is sitting at a 50% approval rating at the moment. This election is about Clinton and Trump. People on the right have been seething about the Clintons for decades. Decades of built-up hatred. I'm not about to suggest it isn't warranted. I don't really care to debate whether or not it is. But the Clintons just really, uh, rub Republicans the wrong way. And the thought of another Clinton in office is just incomprehensible. I get it. I understand that. I don't really like her. I think political dynasties in America is a bad, bad idea. But Trump ... my God. I can't even begin to imagine what he will do as president.
    That 50% approval rating is a mirage. I know that's the polling, but it's like the unemployed #'s - it flies in the face of reality. I don't think most people care about the Clinton legacy or reputation, and I certainly don't think that's a significant factor in this election. Hell, most conservatives would've paid to have Bill Clinton return to office over the past 8 years. On the other hand, the country is and has been split near the 50% mark for nearly a decade. What has infuriated many on my side of the 50% is not just the disregard Obama and his regime have had for the 'other half' of the US populace, but the outright scorn and condescension they have heaped upon them. I would also suggest that you are hardly in a position to understand what's driving right-wing/conservative feelings right now Henry (no offense).

    What might give Trump the win is a crisis, or an economic downturn, or something that shakes up the status quo. Trumps numbers bump up every time someone who's muslim kills a lot of people. He feeds off that fear. Then he says something incredibly stupid, irresponsible, or ignorant (or all three) and his numbers go back down. It may just come down to timing.
    I agree that he is exploiting fear and so is Mrs. Clinton. How many crises does Trump need anyway? There's one every 3 days. And the crises we are seeing are directly linked to, perhaps even invited by, the perception that America is weak, distracted, and unwilling to confront those challenging us today. All of that, like it or not, supports much of the Trump narrative.

    I've already stated that I'm not a Trump fan. What I will argue is the notion that a vote for Hillary Clinton is 'safer' or 'more responsible' - she's a dangerous candidate in her own right, not because of what we fear she might do, but because of what we know her to be from past documented experience - an immoral opportunist entirely lacking in character, honesty, or integrity. I wouldn't put too much stock in being able to proudly look in the mirror voting for any candidate this year, unless you're writing one in
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    Quote Originally Posted by McD5 View Post
    That's possible. But life is short and he's 74 years old.

    I would think he might enjoy one shot at the WH.
    Is there a reason to be Veep other than a shot at being Potus?

    After this cycle Sanders will be effectively out of that chance.
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    Way to go BGO mods, open up the Political Asylum on a presidential election year...where the main two candidates are turd bucket Trump and crap sandwich Clinton.

    I hardly ever get political on facebook (for multiple reasons, but mainly for fear of being disowned by my family who votes straight Republican no matter what), so the Political Asylum shall do nicely as an outlet for my constant stream of thoughts on this election --->

    My thoughts on this whole thing: WTF, America?!? These are the choices we have?!?!? Henry, you're not the only one who's reminded of the "crazy pills" scene in Zoolander.

    I can't handle either of them and neither will get my vote (but who am I kidding, I live in California where my really vote doesn't count anyway, Hillary will get our electoral votes). I'm a registered Republican, but I can't stomach voting for Trump who's an utterly deplorable candidate IMO. I am so frustrated that so many primary voters were swayed by emotion, completely false rhetoric and full-on buffoonery at the polls instead of rational thought. I thought Kasich was a no brainer choice if you're looking to win the war: in the national polls stacking him against Hillary, every poll had him trouncing Hillary in head to head matchups. It was just really frustrating to feel that my fellow Republicans couldn't look past the primaries and focus on the longer term objective of taking back the White House. Because of our primary choice, we are going to lose the White House and probably power in Congress (unless ISIS continues stepping up their terrorist attacks, then it will be a closer election #wildcard ).

    Since I refuse to vote for either The Donald or Hillary, it looks like I'm down to 2 choices: Gary Johnson and Ryan Kerrigan.
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    Yeah... Kasich was the thinking man's choice. He was way too lethargic early on and that cost him. I could've lived with Rubio too. It's hard to understand how neither of them could get it going but Trump could...really boggles the mind.


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    Btw, I took a Facebook quiz (which I know are 100% accurate) about a month ago to see which presidential candidate's views I matched up most closely to. And I got Hillary.

    Kidding.

    No, the top 6 candidates I lined up with were Libertarians. Apparently I'm more of a Libertarian than anything, which I'm fine with because each day I find myself more and more disillusioned with the Republicans, which is pretty heartbreaking.
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    Yeah, Kasich and Rubio I would have voted for easily. The only thing I can attribute Trump's impending nomination to is emotion. OR crazy pills. It's a toss up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry View Post
    Sanders is a socialist. He's not a communist, but he is a socialist. And he will not be the VP pick. Hillary wants someone who will sit down and shut up once the election is over. That ain't Bernie.

    My guess is Tim Kaine.
    That's exactly right. And really, it's not exclusive to Clinton - it's a struggle to think of a Presidential nominee from either party who picked a VP that they believed was more capable or more popular than they were or had any potential to 'outshine' them. I agree on Kaine, that would be the smart pick, and Clinton is not a risk taker.
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    I'm hoping that the Republican National Convention is an incident-free one. I am curious what you guys think. Why does their convention seem to be such a lightning rod for groups like 'Black Lives Matter' and the 'Black Panthers'? I understand those groups are not exactly traditionally 'in line' with Republican values But what, specifically, have conservatives done in recent history to warrant protests targeted at them specifically? I am assuming those groups won't be protesting the Democratic convention. Trump is offensive to everyone. I am not aware of anything Trump has said or done (other than his comment about KKK leaders which I think was a dumb comment, but probably innocuous and greatly overblown by the media) that would inspire hatred or extreme vitriole specific to the agendas of those groups. I could understand hispanic or pro-immigration groups protesting, for example, but what positions have Trump or Repubs taken that is sparking this. Or is it simple some sort of generic association - Republicans=White Men=Cop-Lovers=Anti-Black=The Enemy? Is this a result of Trump having positioned himself and the Republicans as the 'Law and Order' party?
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    McCain did, except for the capable part, and he was wrong and it cost him big.
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