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    Andrew Luck just announced his retirement - this is not a joke.


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    That's pretty crazy, but I can see where he's coming from. Honestly hope Jordan does the same, long term health both physical & mental should be he priority
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    Andrew Luck just announced his retirement - this is not a joke.


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    For years the NFL tried to pretend that it's sport wasn't destroying their athletes' minds and bodies. Now that players are actually finding out what the long term effects of playing in the NFL are, more and more of them are leaving the game early, and I don't blame them one bit. If I were Reed I'd retire yesterday.
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    Good for Andrew Luck. No job is worth sacrificing your physical and mental health over. Pretty disgusted to see fans booing him.
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    Luck, a top franchise QB retiring at the peak of his prime, may have opened the gates.

    https://www.nbcsports.com/washington..._rzWwmQOCEYB_Q

    Not that we didn't already know this about the NFL, but more players may find the courage to follow Luck's example now.
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    Bills just cut Lesean Mccoy. Wow...
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    Pittsburgh made out like bandits getting rid of Antonio Brown, dude is a freakin head case and a 1/2

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    Ruh roh.

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    Dude is definitely a problem child and a narcissistic diva, abbuser would seem to be within his wheelhouse
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    Ben Roethlisberger is done for the year. Right elbow surgery sometime this week.
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    Brees is gonna be out a while too. Two contenders probably out just like that. The NFL is a tough business.
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    Riggo’s Rag article suggesting in house replacement if Manusky is shown the door. I personally would want Tomsula promoted to DC if this needed transaction takes place.

    https://riggosrag.com/2019/09/16/red...usky-replaced/
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    "Raekwon McMillan told me when he hit Brady on Sunday - a perfectly legit hit - the referee told him "Stay off Tom.""

    https://twitter.com/flasportsbuzz/st...343537153?s=20
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    Riggo’s Rag article suggesting in house replacement if Manusky is shown the door. I personally would want Tomsula promoted to DC if this needed transaction takes place.

    https://riggosrag.com/2019/09/16/red...usky-replaced/
    To be fair, curious why Tomsula seems to get a pass from most fans? Not sure our DL has ever over performed during his tenure despite having a ton of talent.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry View Post
    "Raekwon McMillan told me when he hit Brady on Sunday - a perfectly legit hit - the referee told him "Stay off Tom.""

    https://twitter.com/flasportsbuzz/st...343537153?s=20
    Also been reports of officials admitting to players in-game that they saw holding but didn’t call it.

    NFL needs to get a handle on these officials.


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    Patriots release Antonio Brown.


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    To be fair, curious why Tomsula seems to get a pass from most fans? Not sure our DL has ever over performed during his tenure despite having a ton of talent.


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    Well Tomsula has the most consistent tier of players of any unit on the club. He’s been a DC as well as HC before. Granted it was short tenure but even still, no other position coach maybe besides Callahan receives as much praise from players.

    Edit: Bet you can’t name another coach who busts ass during a presser without care either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Win4us View Post
    Well Tomsula has the most consistent tier of players of any unit on the club. He’s been a DC as well as HC before. Granted it was short tenure but even still, no other position coach maybe besides Callahan receives as much praise from players.

    Edit: Bet you can’t name another coach who busts ass during a presser without care either.

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    I like Tomsula. But he's really on the same level as Manusky. He hasn't been a DC in the NFL. He has been a DL coach almost his entire career except for taking over as interim HC for one game for the 49ers after Mike Singletary got fired, and then he was the legit HC for the 49ers in 2015 but was fired after going 5-11. He was also a HC for a single year in NFL Europe (2006) for the Rhein Fire going 6-4.

    His only DC experience was in NFL Europe for the Berlin Thunder 2004-2005. They did win the league championship his first year.

    I like Tomsula a lot. But Manusky has 12 years of NFL experience as a DC. Most of his defenses were middle of the road (or more often, worse) statistically, although he did field a top 10 defense a few times during that stretch.

    I don't think Manusky is a very good DC. His record screams mediocrity. In 11 previous years as a DC for 4 different teams, his D's have had an average rank of 18th for yds given up, and 17th for points given up. He's absolutely a below-average DC. Why we cannot do better than guys like Joe Barry and Greg Manusky, I will never understand.

    I'm just saying there's no reason to assume Tomsula is the answer. His group is loaded with talent and yet (so far) seems to underperform. He shouldn't get any more of a pass than Manusky does. I don't care how 'rah rah' and motivational his personality is.

    Bottom line. Our defensive coaches have not had great success anywhere they've coached (at least in the real NFL). That's a huge problem and I don't see anything changing dramatically despite better talent until we get some defensive coaches that are smarter and more innovative than the ones we have.
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    Manusky is Hazmat 2.0 imo and will never amount to anything more. Tomsula to me is the prettiest turd to choose from if we decide to stay in-house. Expecially if Manusky's contract is terminated in the next few weeks. Barring a miracle turn around by Tomsulaa I see us riding or dying with the current staff for the remainder of the season regardless of record.

    Basically I see Tomsula as the best interim coach for the D, he honestly can't do any worse than Manusky at this point.
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    Double post

    IMHO we're going to need a Rivera or Singletary type to get the most out of the defense. Someone that demands accountability and will not tolerate repeated mistakes and gaffes. In honesty we're probably needing wholesale changes to the staff for 2020 & beyond
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    Gonna leave this little tidbit about Kirk here with a lol

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.esp...3fplatform=amp

    “...The following figures sum up Cousins in big games: He has a 5-26 record against teams with winning records, a career road record of 13-24-2 and a combined prime-time record of 7-25. Since he became the Vikings' starting quarterback, Cousins has yet to lead a game-winning drive, a span of 18 games....”
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