Burner's Burning Questions: Free Agency, Mocks, Camps, OTAs, Roster Predictions, 2020

SilentThreat said:

I think it's because of a bigger vision. Allen is gone. Trainers are gone. Trent doesn't want to be here, we don't want you here. We're not Trent Williams away from being a contender, so 'forcing' him to play this year, just to let him walk next off season with a questionable amount of compensatory return gains us nothing. If we want to truly rebuild, how much more valuable is a 3rd round pick (possibly) this season, vs a (again... POSSIBLE) 3rd round compensatory (end of the round) pick in 2 years. This draft is stacked in the 2nd round, so it's very likely that a 2nd round, or even 1st round, talent falls. We need a WR. It's almost a lock that 4 Qbs (Burrow, Tua, Herbert, Love), go in the 1st round, 4 OTs, 4 top 10 Defensive players, and were talking about a draft that some SERIOUS talent falling down the line. IMHO, a 3rd is more valuable this year than risking a guaranteed later pick, as well as not knowing those draft classes.

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I think the value you're missing is we don't have draft value now to fill in for Trent, and there simply is not a better LT in the FA market. If you're going to expect the most from your 2nd year QB, you better give him the best option at Blind Side as you can. We've see with some protection, Haskins can make plays.

You gonna trust a 37 yr old Penn, again? I mean, he's really the only other viable option and probably can, but I'd rather have a younger, fresher LT who is better. We have Trent under contract, let him protect Haskins, and move on next year when there is a viable FA or we have the draft equity to pick the new 10 year LT in Washington.

Tony Pauline (one of the better NFL insiders) says that the Redskins have multiple day three offers for Big Trent and nothing more. In other words, the most he will now fetch is a fourth rounder or maybe a fifth.

BBQ mocks (another one coming Friday) will now reflect the potential for a fourth round trade.

Maybe see if Cleveland will trade Hooper for Trent straight up

He's a toxic POS.

Burner’s Burning Questions: Free Agency, Mocks, Camps, OTAs, Roster Predictions, 2020​

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The 2020 NFL draft is thirteen days away and it will be here before you know it. We’re getting closer in this process and we have a few ideas about what the team needs later this month. The process of team building never ends and BBQ is about to take a look at what could happen in the coming days.

Today, we bring you the latest mock of the 2020 offseason. The mocks will vary throughout the offseason and we will add/subtract players to/from the list as any relevant information becomes available. The Redskins currently have picks in rounds one, three, four, five, and seven. They also have a compensatory pick in the fourth round and an extra seventh round pick via a trade.

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We will now feature two mocks this week/next week and the number of mocks will increase during the week of the draft.

Without any further delays, let’s take our latest look at the 2020 draft with this mock.

Upcoming Dates
- Days until the virus passes: Hopefully, very soon
- Days until the 2020 NFL Draft: 13
- Days until the Redskins season opener: 156

Pre-Draft: Trade
The Redskins trade Trent Williams for a fourth round selection.

Round One: Chase Young, Edge/DE, Ohio St. – 6’5, 265
Arguably the best overall player in the draft is there for the taking and the Redskins turn in the (virtual) card. Young is the next great pass rusher in a program that has produced some incredible talent at the edge position in recent years. The impact would be immediate. A quarterback’s nightmare. Excellent run defender. Perfectly tailored for a 4-3 defense.
Other Possible Picks:
Andrew Thomas, OT, Georgia
Jerry Jeudy, WR, Alabama
Isaiah Simmons, ILB, Clemson
Tristan Wirfs, OT, Iowa
Jeffrey Okudah, CB, Ohio St.
Jedrick Wills, OT, Alabama

Round Two: Possible Prospects
The Redskins lack a second round selection, but here is a list of players who could be targeted if they can acquire a pick in this round.
Noah Igbinoghene, CB, Auburn
Tee Higgins, WR, Clemson
A.J. Terrell, CB, Clemson
Justin Jefferson, WR, Louisiana St.
Damon Arnette, CB, Ohio St.
Lucas Niang, OT, Texas Christian
Trevon Diggs, CB, Alabama
Cameron Dantzler, CB, Mississippi St.

Round Three: Cole Kmet, TE, Notre Dame – 6’6”, 260
Cole Kmet has been rising up draft boards in recent months and even more so after a solid showing at the Combine. Ideal size for an NFL tight end. Excellent pass catcher who will produce additional yardage after a reception. His blocking skills need a bit of work. Kmet will need time to develop as an all-around player, but his football IQ is high and the potential is unlimited.
Other Possible Picks:
Isaiah Wilson, OT, Georgia
Jeremy Chinn, FS, Southern Illinois
Austin Jackson, OT, Southern California
Adam Trautman, TE, Dayton
Prince Tega Wanogho, OT, Auburn
Brycen Hopkins, TE, Purdue
Jaylon Johnson, CB, Utah

Round Four: Saahdiq Charles, OT, Louisiana St. – 6’4”, 320
Saahdiq Charles has been busy this offseason. He has added twenty pounds of bulk and muscle to his frame. The biggest knock on Charles was his lack of strength, but his offseason regimen has scouts re-assessing that claim now. He is mobile and while some of his techniques need minor adjustments, this Cajun County Bayou Bengal is definitely ready for life at the next level. Could become a starter by mid-season, maybe sooner.
Other Possible Picks:
K.J. Hill, WR, Ohio St.
Matthew Peart, OT, Connecticut
Chase Claypool, WR, Notre Dame
Solomon Kindley, OG, Georgia
K'Von Wallace, SS/FS, Clemson
Ben Bartch, OT, St. John
Lamar Jackson, CB, Nebraska

Round Four: Michael Pittman, WR, Southern Cal – 6’4”, 220
The son of former NFL running back by the same name, Pittman is a physically strong receiver and imposes his will on defensive backs from the X position. Superb blocker at all levels. Not the fastest receiver, but tends to win contested passes and his size makes for the perfect “jump ball” situations. Solid red zone target. Ability to shine on special teams duties.

Round Four, Comp Pick: Antonio Gibson, RB/WR/KR, Memphis – 6’1”, 225
So anyway, is he a running back, wide receiver, or kick returner? Gibson was decent at each position a few years ago in community college. Two seasons ago, he saw little action in his first season as a Tiger. Then, 2019 happened. 38 receptions at 19 yards a catch with eight touchdowns. 33 carries at 11 yards per run and four touchdowns. 28 yards per return and one touchdown. How about his 4.39 40 speed? Explosive in all three phases – his versatility is scary good. Only one season of production hurts his stock, but Gibson would provide good value here.

Round Five: Colby Parkinson, TE, Stanford – 6’7”, 255
Looking for another sizable tight end? Look no further than Colby Parkinson. He can play the Y, H, and F positions effectively. Fundamentally sound blocker – good mechanics and flexibility, but needs to finish those blocks a bit better. Positions himself well between the defender and the quarterback. Excellent red zone and “jump ball” target. Slow 40 time (4.77) will limit his draft stock. In certain passing schemes, he can line up in the slot and outside for slants and various hook patterns. This versatility will keep him from dropping into the late rounds.
Other Possible Picks:
Jacob Breeland, TE, Oregon
Collin Johnson, WR, Texas
Antonio Gandy-Golden, WR, Liberty
Albert Okwuegbunam, TE, Missouri
Thad Moss, TE, LSU

Round Six: Possible Prospects
The Redskins lack a sixth round selection, but here is a list of players who could be targeted if they can acquire a pick in this round.
Mitchell Wilcox, TE, South Florida
Charlie Heck, OT, North Carolina
Tanner Muse, FS/ILB/Hybrid, Clemson
Terence Steele, OT, Texas Tech
Joe Reed, WR, Virginia
Cheyenne O'Grady, TE, Arkansas
Cole Van Lanen, OT, Wisconsin

Round Seven: Trey Adams, OT, Washington – 6’8”, 318
Adams could start eventually at either tackle position, but any team drafting him needs to consider the injury history. Drafting him for potential here provides good value. If he is considered for the left tackle position, Adams will need a year or two to adjust to the position at this level. A true mauler in the rushing scheme. Very good pass protector. Should add about ten to fifteen pounds of muscle to his frame. Again, he does come with an injury history and could be an IR candidate or a practice squad member in his first season.
Other Possible Picks:
Alex Taylor, OT, South Carolina St.
James Proche, WR, SMU
Myles Dorn, FS/SS, North Carolina
Jared Pinkney, TE, Vanderbilt
Reggie Floyd, FS, Virginia Tech
Devin Asiasi, TE, UCLA
Tyre Phillips, OT/OG, Mississippi St.

Round Seven: Steven Montez, QB, Colorado – 6’5”, 235
Montez is not the most polished quarterback in this year’s class, but he does have plenty of upside. With only two healthy quarterbacks on the roster, the Redskins add the late round prospect. Montez can make plays after leaving the pressure of a collapsed pocket. He relies a bit too much on his size and limited skillsets instead of trusting the play as it is designed. Better poise in the pocket needs to be learned. Strong arm. Definitely a project, but potentially can be a long term backup.

Undrafted Free Agent Prospects
This list will continue to evolve and change in the coming weeks as the Redskins meet with many players who will not be drafted.
Gage Cervenka, OG, Clemson
Rico Dowdle, RB, South Carolina
Mohamed Barry, ILB, Nebraska
Jeremiah Dinson, FS, Auburn
Shea Patterson, QB, Michigan
Naquan Jones, DT, Michigan St.
John Penisini, DT, Utah
Robert Hunt, OG, Louisiana-Lafayette
John Hightower, WR, Boise St.
Riley Neal, QB, Vanderbilt
Cameron Clark, OT, North Carolina-Charlotte
Keith Washington, CB, West Virginia
Charlie Taumoepeau, TE, Portland St.
Kelly Bryant, QB, Missouri
Jordan Glasgow, ILB/SS, Michigan
Lawrence Cager, WR, Georgia
Jabril Cox, ILB, North Dakota St.

Additional Notes
The fourth round comp pick comes from the deal that sent Jamison Crowder to the Jets. All other possible comp picks have been canceled out.

Free agency could continue to change some of the targets that we see in current mocks. For now, we can only speculate based on current team needs and pertinent information.

There is your latest mock of the 2020 offseason. We will have another mock on Monday. The volume of mocks will increase during the week of the draft.

BB you were dead on with Scherff wanting to stay with the team. Woulda thought the no LTD meant he wanted out. I’m thinking the new staff had a lot to do with the decision to stay around.

Several insiders were spot on and I just passed along the info. They were adamant that Scherff wanted to stay.

Big Trent on the other hand, lol.

I'm not saying he won't sign a long-term deal, but him saying it, and him signing are two different things. If he wanted to be here so badly, seems to me like we would've had a deal done already, and wouldn't have had to franchise tag him to keep him on the roster. We heard the same stuff from Kirk - all the way up until him pimping himself out to the highest bidder. Show me.

Scherff is much more realistic. There is no way he wants a fully guaranteed contract for the entire length of the deal. Kirk's new contract (actually, an addition) continues to fleece the Vikings. If the Vikings want to be fleeced, then that is their prerogative. Scherff will get paid, but he will not have a major effect on the team's cap.

Too, Scherff (and his agent) is dealing with a very professional front office these days and not a Bruce Allen circus establishment.

Look at how the front office handled the Quinton Dunbar situation. They quickly moved on and didn't look back. The Trent Williams situation is not being handled through the press (only the agent for TW is doing so). When a deal for TW is done, the team will quickly move ahead and not look back.

The Scherff situation is not like the Kirk Cousins affair or like the Haynesworth-Shanahan debacle (Shanahan handled it poorly and didn't move on quickly from AH).

BB I just watched a highlight video of Gibson. if he lasts til the 4th I’d say a hell yeah grab him, he’s pretty quick and shifty.


Round Four, Comp Pick: Antonio Gibson, RB/WR/KR, Memphis – 6’1”, 225

Burgundy Burner said:

Scherff is much more realistic. There is no way he wants a fully guaranteed contract for the entire length of the deal. Kirk's new contract (actually, an addition) continues to fleece the Vikings. If the Vikings want to be fleeced, then that is their prerogative. Scherff will get paid, but he will not have a major effect on the team's cap.

Too, Scherff (and his agent) is dealing with a very professional front office these days and not a Bruce Allen circus establishment.

Look at how the front office handled the Quinton Dunbar situation. They quickly moved on and didn't look back. The Trent Williams situation is not being handled through the press (only the agent for TW is doing so). When a deal for TW is done, the team will quickly move ahead and not look back.

The Scherff situation is not like the Kirk Cousins affair or like the Haynesworth-Shanahan debacle (Shanahan handled it poorly and didn't move on quickly from AH).

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Of course it's like the Cousins situation. It's exactly like the Cousins situation. Neither would sign a long-term deal and the team was forced to franchise tag them. That's a pretty big commonality

I agree that there is a higher likelihood that something gets done now that Allen is gone and we have greater competence (and probably trust) running the Redskins side of things. On the other hand, that's been true for months and yet there hasn't been a deal. That could be just a matter of 'not enough time' although these things generally don't take that much time when both parties really want to get it done. You don't franchise a player because you want to. You franchise a player because you've thrown your best offer, one that is reasonable in your estimation, and it was rejected. Your points regarding Dunbar and TW actually undermine your argument BB - because what it shows is that Rivera isn't going to overpay for anyone, and doesn't view anyone as so critical that they deserve some outrageous contract or one that far outstrips what he perceives their value to be.

It is always possible that Scherff ultimately signs. But what he 'says' is meaningless as, again, we've heard the same things from players all the way up until the point they left. And the most cogent discussion is, if Scherff wants to be a Redskins for life, why haven't he and his agent worked out a deal already - and what's going to change to make that more likely going forward?

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I think the value you're missing is we don't have draft value now to fill in for Trent, and there simply is not a better LT in the FA market. If you're going to expect the most from your 2nd year QB, you better give him the best option at Blind Side as you can. We've see with some protection, Haskins can make plays.

You gonna trust a 37 yr old Penn, again? I mean, he's really the only other viable option and probably can, but I'd rather have a younger, fresher LT who is better. We have Trent under contract, let him protect Haskins, and move on next year when there is a viable FA or we have the draft equity to pick the new 10 year LT in Washington.

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You're assuming he plays. The new CBA makes it harder to sit out, but we are likely going to see a shortened offseason, possibly having preseason effected as well. Trent also has to pass the physical that apparently his head wouldnt fit right in his helmet for. He held out and got what he wanted, now he still wants out. Even if we hold on to him ill be very surprised if we ever see him in our jersey on a game day

It is an assumption for sure. But he will pay a steep price if he doesn't suit up. I'm not sure he can financially sustain that kind of stubbornness. Beyond that, he's going to further damage his reputation and potential to find a team willing to sign him up for anything approaching a big contract a year from now. Teams will know that he likely is perfectly capable of suiting up, and yet will not. He might've won the PR battle with Bruce Allen playing the bad guy role. But he won't win it when it's Ron Rivera and Kyle Smith he's refusing to play for.

He has no winning way out of this.

Bottom line - if we can't trade him, and he wants to continue to play the victim and try to pout his way out of DC as some kind of victim, we'll get to enjoy seeing him pay the price for it.

I dont know if i want that. I get the business side of it, maximizing return on assets, but he is the final lingering headache that is a carry over from a dark time. Perpetuating that to try and get a pick thats likely only a handful of picks higher in a draft thats already as far from a guarantee just seems like the juice aint worth the squeeze for a franchise that also just jetisoned the least favorable GM in the nfl.


I get it, we would be underselling... im just ready for it to be done.

I totally get that take but I still want max value possible for him. I do want him gone if it’s at all possible.

SilentThreat said:

I dont know if i want that. I get the business side of it, maximizing return on assets, but he is the final lingering headache that is a carry over from a dark time. Perpetuating that to try and get a pick thats likely only a handful of picks higher in a draft thats already as far from a guarantee just seems like the juice aint worth the squeeze for a franchise that also just jetisoned the least favorable GM in the nfl.


I get it, we would be underselling... im just ready for it to be done.

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In any other year, I am with you...but we have to do our best to protect Haskins. If he is scrambling for his life every passing down, he and his fragile ego will probably fail.

SilentThreat said:

I think it's because of a bigger vision. Allen is gone. Trainers are gone. Trent doesn't want to be here, we don't want you here. We're not Trent Williams away from being a contender, so 'forcing' him to play this year, just to let him walk next off season with a questionable amount of compensatory return gains us nothing. If we want to truly rebuild, how much more valuable is a 3rd round pick (possibly) this season, vs a (again... POSSIBLE) 3rd round compensatory (end of the round) pick in 2 years. This draft is stacked in the 2nd round, so it's very likely that a 2nd round, or even 1st round, talent falls. We need a WR. It's almost a lock that 4 Qbs (Burrow, Tua, Herbert, Love), go in the 1st round, 4 OTs, 4 top 10 Defensive players, and were talking about a draft that some SERIOUS talent falling down the line. IMHO, a 3rd is more valuable this year than risking a guaranteed later pick, as well as not knowing those draft classes.

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If he can be trusted in the lockerroom and be a professional on the field...he keeps your QB alive better than any other OT on the roster right now IMO. Much as I understand Ax's mindset and am more than half way to agreeing, I keep my best spare tire until I can replace it with a new one. Next move is Trent's. His only out is one used by Brown, Bell at al - become obnoxous to the point that the team has to release him. Not sure that is his MO/fits his personality. If hw goes down that road - can his arse fast.