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Griffin III is the proclaimed starter

Unless he has some other motive for giving Crompton those snaps? I'm not sure what he's thinking.

Fatigue. You have about a dozen receivers and a half dozen more backs in camp and only 4 QB's. You gotta make sure you don't wear Griffin out so you give Crompton some snaps to spell him. Nothing really more to it than that.
 
I think you're right Ax. Crompton hopefully was a sponge last year, and may make Rex expendanble. I think the third QB spot may come down to Crompton or Rex, and if Crompton plays well during the camps and practices, he may lock it down.

The edge Rex has is the third QB slot is probably actually for the backup QB, so Crompton has a lot to do to catch up to Rex. However, as Ax pointed out, Crompton fits the offense better; if he can make some substantive steps towards Rex, I would not be shocked to see Rex cut or traded.
 
Really?? What the hell were those people thinking? RG3 was the starter the day we traded up for him. Who else are they gonna start? Grossman lol?
Excuse me? That was a pretty common sentiment when the trade first went down, and leading up the draft day.

There is a rational for letting a guy adjust to the system. And given the way fans and media in this area are, there's also a reason to not throw a guy out there if he's not ready.

If RG3 throws 3 interceptions a game and loses the first 4 games 'fans' in this area will be calling for the shannahans to be fired, and rg3 to be cut.

So yeah, there was an idea that he may not start week one.

I personally refused to believe rex grossman would be the better option when week 1 rolled around.
 
Colt Brennan looked great in camp and preseason, didn't he ?

And what ultimate significance did that hold ? :)

There's no substitute for having someone with successful and extensive, regular-season game experience, as either your starting or backup QB.


5-11 is successful?
 
I think you're right Ax. Crompton hopefully was a sponge last year, and may make Rex expendanble. I think the third QB spot may come down to Crompton or Rex, and if Crompton plays well during the camps and practices, he may lock it down.

The edge Rex has is the third QB slot is probably actually for the backup QB, so Crompton has a lot to do to catch up to Rex. However, as Ax pointed out, Crompton fits the offense better; if he can make some substantive steps towards Rex, I would not be shocked to see Rex cut or traded.


Goal....since I haven't been tracking....is Shanahan gonna keep 3 QBs on the active roster?
 
Listening to his unusually "giddy" press conference, it sure sounded like he wants to keep three QBs on the roster.
 
Goal....since I haven't been tracking....is Shanahan gonna keep 3 QBs on the active roster?
If I may...

If it's Griffin-Grossman-Cousins, then no question, we keep all three on the roster. Cousins would be plucked off the PS.

If it's Griffin-Crompton-Cousins, Crompton might get put on the PS if eligible.

If I were to fancy a guess, I would say, yes. We will carry 3 QB's on the 53 man roster. And they will be, Griffin, Crompton, & Cousins.
 
They just re-signed Grossman, I don't think he's going anywhere. I know when they re-signed him they had no intention of drafting Cousins, but still don't think he'll be going anywhere. As terrible as he is, he's a veteran who knows and has had success in the system.
 
They just re-signed Grossman, I don't think he's going anywhere. I know when they re-signed him they had no intention of drafting Cousins, but still don't think he'll be going anywhere. As terrible as he is, he's a veteran who knows and has had success in the system.
Success? With a year in the system, is it not at least possible that Crompton, playing only if Robert is injured, could lead this team to 5-11 season?
 
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I'm with Ax on this one. I think when they resigned Rex, they weren't thinking Cousins would be available in the 4th round. He was, they drafted him, that guarantees Cousins and RGIII are two slots, Rex and Crompton fighting out for the 3rd (which is the backup role, imo). And as Ax says, would our record have been substantially worse with Crompton last year?

FS, I think Shanny carries three, yes. That is guaranteed if Rex stays, but even if Crompton stays, based on what I've read and China has said about Cousins needing time to develop, I think we carry three. I don't see Shanny entrusting the backup role to a guy who needs some time to develop. Maybe in a couple of years, but not yet.
 
I guess I'm viewing "success" as more of an individual basis, rather than Ws & Ls. Rexy has shown he can complete passes in this offense, even throw for TDs. He had the Cowboys on the ropes, but Moss dropped an easy TD pass. Grossman is not the answer at QB, this is true; however I'd much rather have him coming off the bench than Crompton or Cousins, two guys who have never taken an NFL snap.
 
I am not buying the Crompton assertion either. Shanallen may not have thought Cousins would be there in the 4th, but there is little doubt in my mind that they intended to bring a QB in via the draft this year. If Crompton was really that high on their radar he would have gotten some time as the backup perhaps even some game time last year toward the end of the season.

Jimbo hit the nail on the head here. Crompton is just giving them an extra arm in camp. We are carrying 3 into the season because Cousins would get snatched up on the PS and from the reports out of this weekends practices, Cousins has promise but looked the part of a 4th round QB pick in his first season.

Griff
Rex
Cousins

That is our lineup on opening day. Depending on Cousins progress, this should be the last season of Rex in B&G. Let's hope Griff stays healthy all year!
 
Success? With a year in the system, is it not at least possible that Crompton, playing only if Robert is injured, could lead this team to 5-11 season?

I guess I'm viewing "success" as more of an individual basis, rather than Ws & Ls.

Not to mention the fact that 3 of those losses last year came with Beck at the helm.
 
Griff
Rex
Cousins

That is our lineup on opening day. Depending on Cousins progress, this should be the last season of Rex in B&G. Let's hope Griff stays healthy all year!

It would take one helluva camp from Crompton to make this depth chart any different. Per their draft position Crompton is expendable, Cousins is not.
 
I wouldn't be as quick to dismiss the possibility of an opening day roster of Griffin, Crompton, & Cousins.

Maybe they feel Crompton's athletic advantage over Grossman trumps his lack of game experience. And, in tweaking the offense to Griffin's capabilities, if he were to get hurt, they'd have to alter the game plan more for the immobile Grossman, than they would Crompton. Who, sight unseen, HAS to be more mobile than Sexy.

With a year in the system, Crompton might be ready for the back up role. It makes sense that they look to be giving him a shot at it, by giving him reps with the 1st team. If he can show some efficiency in preseason, he may well be #2. Making Sexy available as trade bait to team hurt by injury during the preseason.

Besides, does anybody in the world not already know what we have in Grossman? If Crompton is another Beck, Grossman could be #2 without many reps. The man is as good as he'll ever be.

I think you're right Ax. Crompton hopefully was a sponge last year, and may make Rex expendanble. I think the third QB spot may come down to Crompton or Rex, and if Crompton plays well during the camps and practices, he may lock it down.

Guys, we need to adjust our thinking.
There seems to be a habit of thinking among fans that you can take virtually any guy who plays QB, and place him as a backup and/or PS member, and let him hold the clipboard and study for a year or two, and PRESTO, out of the machine comes at least a serviceable NFL starter or backup.

It's as if fans are totally ignoring the raw talent aspect of the game.
You can stash a player as a backup and/or PS player and let him study the offense/system, etc for an entire decade, and all that knowledge and familiarity won't matter worth a hill of beans, if he lacks the necessary raw tools to play the utmost demanding position of NFL QB.

Look no further than John Beck.

There's a reason why Crompton was waived FOUR times, in the span of less than a year. In fact, prior to signing with the Skins last year, of the 3 teams who previously signed him, he never lasted more than TWO days on EVEN the PS of any of those teams. And of course, he has a total of zero days on an active roster of any team.

Besides the fact that there's good reason he was cut so often and quickly, there's also no reason to build up any NFL expectations of him at this point. It's just wishful thinking right now. I'm not saying he won't succeed. There's just no reason to be so confident that he can step in as a #2 or even a #3 this year. He's accomplished nothing and proven nothing as an NFL player.
 
Hopefully this comment from Shanahan will clear things up, so people don't read too much into a rookie camp :

Shanahan said that when the team re-convenes next week, Griffin III will take 80 percent of the snaps with the first-team, while Rex Grossman and Kirk Cousins are in an open competition for the second-string job.
 
Thanks for posting that Fear.
 
Grossman is turnover prone and immobile, while Cousins lacks NFL experience and lacks Griffin's arm and passing skills.

So, it's not that surprising that Shanahan would name Griffin the presumptive starter.

Of the top quarterback picks over the past few years, these guys have started their first seasons.

Sam Bradford, Matt Ryan, Matt Stafford, Cam Newton, etc.

Even later picks Christian Ponder and Andy Dalton ended up starting their first seasons in the NFL.

To tell the truth, I am more concerned with the secondary on this team right now than the situation at qb.

At least we know we have the talent at qb to be competitive.

I am wondering if Hall, Wilson and Cedric Griffin collectively add up to a new 'Pearl Harbor Crew' back there.

I thought the gurus here were talking about trading Hall for a high draft choice and signing a free agent with the freed up dollars.

Didn't seem to me as if there was any serious interest in Hall via trade from around the league.
 
Excuse me? That was a pretty common sentiment when the trade first went down, and leading up the draft day.

There is a rational for letting a guy adjust to the system. And given the way fans and media in this area are, there's also a reason to not throw a guy out there if he's not ready.

If RG3 throws 3 interceptions a game and loses the first 4 games 'fans' in this area will be calling for the shannahans to be fired, and rg3 to be cut.

So yeah, there was an idea that he may not start week one.

I personally refused to believe rex grossman would be the better option when week 1 rolled around.

What!? Nowadays you draft a stud QB at the top of the draft and they start week 1, especially when you don't have a another decent QB on the roster. Bradford, Newton, Stafford, Ryan...all week 1 starters.

Also, you underestimate Skins fans if you think they'll be calling to cut RG3 if he goes 0-4. Anyone with functioning eyeballs will be able to recognize RG3's potential even if he does struggle early.
 

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