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Henry
01-17-10, 10:44 PM
It was like deja vu all over again.

Discuss. :D

The Burgundy Ghost
01-17-10, 10:53 PM
Norv's team played liked Norv's previous teams.

Perfect examples:
3 missed FGs by a normally solid kicker
Vincent Jackson kicking the challenge flag. Hmmmm....brings back memories of Tre Johnson or Michael Westbrook throwing their helmets or getting some stupid personal foul in a close game costing us.

Classic Norv......when will teams learn.

Elephant
01-18-10, 12:08 AM
I have to admit, Norvel has far exceeded any expectation I had when he took over a well disciplined Super Bowl contender from Marty. Last year he took them to the AFC Championship game and this year they entered the playoffs, arguably, the hottest team in the NFL having won 11 straight. All along I have been waiting for the wheels to fall off the bus!

I think this game is the beginning of the end for him.

Sarge
01-18-10, 09:42 AM
With Norv, it's like you're just waiting for the inevitable, meaning a decent team that just physically and mentally collapses when it counts. With any other coach, I'd give reasons for something like this happening, such as the inability to know your workhorse RB was going to crap out this year. But with Norv, I think its just bad ju ju

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_t6AxKNFzg6s/RvhLLunrFuI/AAAAAAAAAEs/TXVPlznABpU/s400/norv3.jpg

Om
01-18-10, 12:22 PM
The Turner Zone (http://www.extremeskins.com/showthread.php?t=206919)

It lives.

Lanky Livingston
01-18-10, 01:28 PM
charger fans are still in denial about norv. i had one guy tell me he actually thought norv deserved the coach of the year award.

kaeding has now cost the chargers 3 different playoff games against the jets. he has by himself cost them those games. THREE!! PLAYOFF!! wow...

I don't buy this. Yes, Kaeding missed field goals, but if you score TDs, no need for him to kick those field goals in the first place. So yes, Kaeding is at fault, but he didn't lose those games for them. And he didn't lose Sunday's game.

f_trizzy
01-19-10, 10:45 AM
3 year extension for Norv...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4837855


SAN DIEGO -- Like it or not, Chargers fans, coach Norv Turner will be sticking around for four more years.

The Chargers announced Monday night that the oft-maligned coach is getting a three-year contract extension through 2013.

The extension came just more than 24 hours after the Chargers were shocked 17-14 by the New York Jets in the divisional playoffs, renewing calls by some fans for Turner to be fired.

Lanky Livingston
01-19-10, 12:07 PM
you dont think its a little weak of him to continue to cost them playoff wins by missing? its simple math. 3 FGs = 9 points. that makes it a win for the Chargers. 3 years he has done that against the jets.

I can do the math, Mike, thanks. However 3 more touchdowns (even if Kaeding misses the extra points) = Chargers blowout win. All I'm saying is, yes the kicker failed to the extreme, but you can't pin ALL the blame on him.


did you show this much patience towards suisham?

Yes. I have never once said that any loss was ALL Suisham's fault. I have been pretty consistent in my criticism of the entire team for sucking. Except Fletcher; I don't think I've criticized him once. ;)

Lanky Livingston
01-19-10, 12:08 PM
The San Diego Chargers Logo is More than a Logo. (http://www.sportspickle.com/article:568/the-san-diego-chargers-logo-is-more-than-a-logo)

Om
01-20-10, 09:23 AM
Mike, I think you may be missing the point. The Gridiron Gods chose Norv Tuner as their plaything a long time ago.

Seriously. Had the silly skinny little kicker actually, you knowm, made any of those field goals, They would have

... had one of the offensive linemen jump a microsecond early so the kick would be negated by a motion penalty and the guy had to try again, at which point of couse he'd miss, or

... allowed the Jets to return the subsequent kickoff 108 yards for a touchdown as time expired (which TD call only stood after a 10-minute instant replay review of whether the man stepped out of bounds) or

... an earthquake would have hit San Diego right at that very instant and wobbled the goalposts so that one of the uprights leeeaaannneeed in just at the last split second and deflected the ball, or

... a huge alien spaceship would have entered the atmosphere right at that instant and the atmospheric change would have knocked the ball down short or at the very least distracted the zebras so they missed it and of course the electronic disruption would have disabled all the replay cameras so the guy had to kick it again, at which point, well ...

.... you know.

It's Norv we're talking about here. Haven't you been watching? :cool:

Lanky Livingston
01-20-10, 03:08 PM
so because he missed 3 FGs you are going to say that the offense should have scored more so it wouldnt have mattered? Talk about not making someone take responsibility for their actions...man. I want you as my defense lawyer when I commit a crime. Maybe we can convince the jury that if my 8th grade art teacher didnt let me near the model glue I would have been ok. ;)

Yes, that's what I'm saying. He doesn't deserve all the blame.

EDIT: Read carefully Mike, I said he doesn't deserve ALL the blame. Meaning yes, he gets some grief for missing 3 field goals, but doesn't the offense deserve grief for not putting more touchdowns on the board?

Hog Fever
01-21-10, 02:43 PM
What they do WORKS!

Everyone knew Norv's team would find a way to blow it, and sure enough they did. There was never a doubt in my mind about it. The fans in San Diego will come to know our pain in time, oh yes.

The thing I find most disappointing about Norv's career at this point is that he was never hired by the Cowboys as head coach. I guess I can hold out hope. One day....one day....

Lanky Livingston
01-21-10, 04:49 PM
What they do WORKS!

Everyone knew Norv's team would find a way to blow it, and sure enough they did. There was never a doubt in my mind about it. The fans in San Diego will come to know our pain in time, oh yes.

The thing I find most disappointing about Norv's career at this point is that he was never hired by the Cowboys as head coach. I guess I can hold out hope. One day....one day....


I think we can all agree that Wade Phillips looks to be the next best thing!

China
10-29-10, 03:00 PM
Well Norv is up to his old tricks again. He's got the #1 offense and #1 defense and still manages to lose. This week more bungling and poor special teams. Typical of a Norv Turner coached team.

This is about the time of year when his teams make a run. Let's see if they can do it again. I wonder how many more times this will happen before he loses his job again.

servumtuum
10-30-10, 07:14 AM
One interesting stat on the Chargers I checked out-they are tied for second worst in the league in turnover ratio at -7 with the Cardinals, only the Jaguars are worse at -10. They've committed 15 fumbles and lost 12 of them (!)

That ain't helping either.:thud:

redskins26
11-03-10, 05:50 PM
There is already blame going around i am sure its from Norv but the players are voiceing there dissapointment at teh GM

China
12-28-10, 01:57 AM
Well I see Norv has successfully managed to turn the 13-3 team he inherited into mediocrity personified. He took one of the most talented teams and managed them into missing the playoffs...brilliant!

But I'm sure they really "competed." :rolleyes2:

Lanky Livingston
12-28-10, 12:29 PM
To be fair to Norv, their primary weapons at WR were Legedu Naane, Malcolm Floyd (for about 5-6 games) Patrick Crayton, Seyi Ajirotutu and Kelley Washington until week 12 when VJax came back, and promptly reinjured himself. Ryan Mathews seems like a bust, and Sproles did not play like he has in recent years. They needed an MVP-type season from Rivers to even be competitive.

Their defense really fell off this season, which is Norv's responsibility as HC, but he doesn't have anything to do with the D, really.

Lanky Livingston
12-28-10, 12:50 PM
Ratings wise they've been terrific, but they gave up 27 to the Seahawks, 63 to the Raiders in 2 games, and 34 to the Bungles. 4 very winnable games, that would have them solidly in playoff contention if they'd won just half of them. I don't remember those kind of performances against inferior teams in previous seasons. I guess "fell off" was a poor choice of words; maybe I should have said their D let them down in key games.

Goaldeje
10-20-11, 07:45 AM
Nice little comeback from Norv here, I was impressed...


The New York Jets were hoping for a quiet few days after last week's headline-making turmoil, but coach Rex Ryan ended any chance of that Wednesday by starting a war of words with San Diego Chargers coach Norv Turner.

Ryan, preparing to face the Chargers Sunday at MetLife Stadium, inadvertently took a shot at Turner in a conference call with the San Diego media. Ryan, who interviewed for the Chargers' head coaching position in 2007, was asked how he might have fared if he had been hired instead of Turner.

"Well, I think I would have had a couple of rings," Ryan said with a laugh. "I'm telling you, those teams were loaded. There's no question about it. But things happen for a reason. Obviously, Norv Turner has done a great job there, and A.J. (Smith) and everybody. That's a great franchise, and he's probably the best guy for the job at that time."

Ryan evidently realized his comments could be taken as a slight toward Turner, so he called his counterpart to clarify his remarks, according to a Jets spokesman.

Turner, addressing the situation later Wednesday, fired back at Ryan after confirming that the Jets coach had called.

"I hadn't seen his quote and I was a little bit surprised by the call, and after I saw the quote I didn't have the chance to ask him this, but I was wondering if he had those rings with the ones he's guaranteed the last couple of years," Turner told reporters in San Diego, taking a blatant shot at Ryan's endless stream of bold predictions.

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/7124599/new-york-jets-rex-ryan-clarifies-quote-san-diego-chargers-norv-turner-fires-back

KDawg
10-20-11, 08:16 AM
Oh snap! Get him Norv!!! :D

Henry
10-20-11, 08:43 AM
Nice one Norv. :)

burgold
10-20-11, 09:22 AM
Norv has spunk? Who knew?

Lanky Livingston
10-20-11, 09:41 AM
Well, fact of the matter is I believe Rex is right. They were loaded, and I'm pretty positive he'd have won at least one championship with those rosters. Same with the Texans.

Elephant
10-20-11, 11:16 AM
Gonna have to go with Lanky on this one. With the talent Norv had when he took over for Marty, he should have been able to win it all. Norv is not a very good head coach, great offensive coordinator, but horrible head coach.

Plus, it's not a very good jab. Rex did not inherit the talent Norv did!

Henry
10-20-11, 01:25 PM
Well, fact of the matter is I believe Rex is right. They were loaded, and I'm pretty positive he'd have won at least one championship with those rosters. Same with the Texans.

Not only that, but Rex, in his first year with a 9-7 team and a rookie QB, marched into San Diego and beat Norv's seasoned 13-3 Chargers in the divisional round of the playoffs a few years back. (In fact, I'm pretty sure someone started a thread about that on this very board. :) )

I'm no fan of Rex Ryan and I'm glad someone shoved his foot down his throat, but he could always point that out if he really wanted to ...

China
11-21-11, 01:27 AM
Norv inherited a 13-3 team on the verge of making it to the Superbowl and has dragged them down into mediocrity.

That's what he does, he manages to lose games his teams should win with stupid or abnormally unlucky plays. Initially you think it's just a bad break or two. But after years and years of it happening you come to realize that at some level it is related to his poor head coaching, even if you can't pinpoint exactly what the problem is.

Norvitis is a terrible wasting disease.

Henry
11-21-11, 09:43 AM
Norvitis is a terrible wasting disease.

And you don't even realize it until it's too late.

The Chargers are 4-6 now? I'm sure there's a perfectly good reason for it ...

Neophyte
11-21-11, 01:42 PM
Being an Offensive Coordinator was his first, best destiny.

Stunning that Mike Martz, with all his ego, can figure this out but Norv keeps taking those Head Coaching jobs and botching them.

Lanky Livingston
11-22-11, 08:02 AM
Being an Offensive Coordinator was his first, best destiny.

Stunning that Mike Martz, with all his ego, can figure this out but Norv keeps taking those Head Coaching jobs and botching them.

Eh, if they keep offering him HC jobs, why WOULDN'T he take them? More money. Sure, he keeps his Norvitis legacy alive, but who cares? I'm sure it will bother him terribly when he's retired on a Caribbean island somewhere.

Neophyte
11-22-11, 10:58 AM
It would bother me, Lanky. I would much rather be remembered as a great Coordinator and win SB rings than be remembered as a lousy Head Couch who ran good teams into the ground.

Besides, top coordinators are making 7 figures these days. I'd take that money and in a heart beat.

Henry
11-22-11, 01:37 PM
I cant see Norv getting offered another HC job.

and the SD Union Tribune is saying he is out after this season.

That means it's time for a winning streak!

I'd say a 5-1 run and a playoff win to close out the season should save his job.

Then he can do it again next year. :)

Elephant
11-22-11, 02:45 PM
I am simply flabbergasted at the season Rivers is having. He looked like Rex the other day and he is supposed to be one of the league's elites. This is likely frustration more than anything else because I am fairly certain he is a top tier QB in this league, but man he's looked bad this year. And I have to blame that on Norv! Why has one of the best QB's in the league regressed so much?

Goaldeje
11-22-11, 02:48 PM
That means it's time for a winning streak!

I'd say a 5-1 run and a playoff win to close out the season should save his job.

Then he can do it again next year. :)

I haven't laughed that hard in a long time, thanks Henry. :clap2:

Fear The Spear
11-22-11, 04:05 PM
I am fairly certain he is a top tier QB in this league, but man he's looked bad this year. And I have to blame that on Norv! Why has one of the best QB's in the league regressed so much?

You just answered your own question :laugh:

Unless it was a rhetorical question :)

Lanky Livingston
11-22-11, 04:11 PM
I heard on Twitter (I think via @evansilva) that Rivers is injured somehow. But yeah, this year compared to last year is night and day. Amazing.

Goaldeje
11-27-11, 08:43 PM
Norv strikes again! My wife would have bet our house on Novak missing that kick! Football Jesus has life!

Elephant
11-27-11, 08:50 PM
Norv gets fired at the end of the season. Now San Diego is picking ahead of us! LOL!

Fear The Spear
11-27-11, 10:44 PM
Norv strikes again! My wife would have bet our house on Novak missing that kick! Football Jesus has life!

Norv did not strike again. Tebow strikes again !!

Tebow was solely responsible for Novak missing that kick.

Re-watch the kick, and you will see Novak distracted by the shining presence of Tebow on the sideline, and stares at Tebow in awe, while he blindly kicks and misses the FG.

Henry
01-01-12, 08:19 PM
I haven't laughed that hard in a long time, thanks Henry. :clap2:

Ok, you gotta admit I was pretty close. I know my Norv. :)

Goaldeje
01-18-12, 02:07 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXu86K4WB9Q&feature=related

Goaldeje
09-23-12, 06:35 PM
ATL up 27-3 in San Diego. What's up with Norv this year? Chargers looking rough...

Neophyte
09-24-12, 01:47 PM
D'uh...it's Norv.

Henry
09-24-12, 01:59 PM
ATL up 27-3 in San Diego. What's up with Norv this year? Chargers looking rough...

What's up with Norv? That's easy.

The Chargers just won two games and look really really good. Of course they'll drop an ugly loss.

That's how Norv rolls.

Goaldeje
10-28-12, 04:03 PM
Just lost to the previously winless Browns. Might Norval get the axe mid-season?

SC_RedskinsFan
10-28-12, 06:04 PM
Just lost to the previously winless Browns. Might Norval get the axe mid-season?

The Browns beat the Cincy a few weeks ago, so they were not winless. At the end of this season Norv will be gone and so will Reid.

Lanky Livingston
10-29-12, 09:27 AM
Just lost to the previously winless Browns. Might Norval get the axe mid-season?


The Browns beat the Cincy a few weeks ago, so they were not winless. At the end of this season Norv will be gone and so will Reid.

Seeing as how its mind-bottling that these two have jobs still, I would tend to agree. Although Reid is likely going to stay, the Eagles organization loves him for some unknown reason, and will probably give him a 32 year extension instead of canning him.

Elephant
11-02-12, 09:00 AM
hes now guaranteed a 5 year extension..LOL
That sucks! I was really hoping he would come back and coach the Cowgirls...'

Elephant
11-02-12, 02:55 PM
When he's gone I can start cheering for the Chargers again...maybe. Now I just want them to lose every game they play as long as he is the coach. Did I mention I dislike Norval!

China
11-13-12, 01:46 AM
The Chargers are now 4-5, having lost 3 out of their last 4 including losses to the Browns and Bucs. Yeesh. It's a wonder Norv has managed to keep his job for this long.

redskins26
12-16-12, 09:56 PM
Unless norv has pics of the gm and owner naked he should be gone