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Old 11-07-12, 08:48 PM   #1
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This sums it up nicely. As the election showed, the general public doesn't side with the right's obstructionist policies and pextreme olarization.

http://bangordailynews.com/2012/04/28/opinion/lets-just-say-it-the-republicans-are-the-problem/
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First off, Allen West did not say they were communists. He said they were socialists, and he was correct.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2010...-their-caucus/

The Socialist Party of America announced in their October 2009 newsletter that 70 Congressional democrats currently belong to their caucus.
This admission was recently posted on Scribd.com:

American Socialist Voter–
Q: How many members of the U.S. Congress are also members of the DSA?
A: Seventy

Q: How many of the DSA members sit on the Judiciary Committee?
A: Eleven: John Conyers [Chairman of the Judiciary Committee], Tammy Baldwin, Jerrold Nadler, Luis Gutierrez,
Melvin Watt, Maxine Waters, Hank Johnson, Steve Cohen, Barbara Lee, Robert Wexler, Linda Sanchez [there are 23 Democrats on the Judiciary Committee of which eleven, almost half, are now members of the DSA].

So right off the bat, this shows me that the two idiots from the Washington Compost that wrote this crap are just spreading democrat lies and don't have a clue what they are talking about.



But hey, great. Legalize EVERYTHING. To hell with all rules and laws. If it feels good, do it. Tell everyone in Mexico just to pack up and settle into our schools. Make cocaine and other drugs comepletely legal. Make banging your dog legal too.

That's what idiots like these want anyways
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This sums it up nicely. As the election showed, the general public doesn't side with the right's obstructionist policies and pextreme olarization
Oh really? Then explain the landslide in the House elections? Last night proved nothing more than what a bunch of fools the American voting public is. As a country we voted to keep the government exactly the way it's been during these 4 years of gridlock. Proof that we as Americans are every bit as stupid as the rest of the world says we are.
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And the brainwashing intensifies, and continues. Who sits in the White House is now firmly in control of the media. Next up, Congress.

Please, please, please, bring on the fiscal cliff, so I don't have to start voting Democrat across the board. It's the only hope for the country.

And Lanky, a couple handfuls of cities, and it goes the other way. What would that election have showed?
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Almost everyone can declare a victory of sorts this election.

Obama won... victory for Democrats
More Republican Governors... victory for GOP
Women won... more female Senators than in any time in history
Senate Races... Dems won... 23 Dem seats contested and only ten Repub ones and the Dems wind up plus two.
Independents won getting their second member in the Senate.
Libertarians can even claim a win with Johnson getting a million votes AND marijuana proposals passing in two states.

If any side is trumpeting victory this go around they're being a bit silly.

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Old 11-08-12, 09:07 AM   #7
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i can't speak to the entire article, but i did read this part and thought it was spot on:
"The GOP has become an insurgent outlier in American politics. It is ideologically extreme; scornful of compromise; unmoved by conventional understanding of facts, evidence and science; and dismissive of the legitimacy of its political opposition."

you see it in all the threads post election. if you're not towing the GOP line it's because you're stupid.
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i can't speak to the entire article, but i did read this part and thought it was spot on:
"The GOP has become an insurgent outlier in American politics. It is ideologically extreme; scornful of compromise; unmoved by conventional understanding of facts, evidence and science; and dismissive of the legitimacy of its political opposition."

you see it in all the threads post election. if you're not towing the GOP line it's because you're stupid.
The same can be said about both sides, it's a propaganda fluff piece T.
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Yeah, the anti science and educational elements are particularly disturbing.
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The same can be said about both sides, it's a propaganda fluff piece T.
No. It can't. That's not to suggest the democrats are perfect, they clearly aren't.

But the problems that plague the democratic party are not the same as the ones that plague the republican party.

and people on either side using the other's problems as justification of their own just don't get it and probably never will.
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Yeah, the anti science and educational elements are particularly disturbing.
I remember when someone here argued with me what logic was... that somehow I had made it up, or something...

it plagues the party. disturbing is a good way of describing it.
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I (wait for it. Wait for it) agree with Extreme. It is a problem that plagues both parties, albeit in slightly different forms. The Dems do a slightly better job of hiding their extremists (quite frankly probably due to some help from the media) than the GOP does. But, and this is admittedly a very small sample size, in looking at FB the morning after, the Left has a lot of loonies too.

Now both sides seem more than willing to play the "he started it" game, which is nauseating.
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I (wait for it. Wait for it) agree with Extreme. It is a problem that plagues both parties, albeit in slightly different forms. The Dems do a slightly better job of hiding their extremists (quite frankly probably due to some help from the media) than the GOP does. But, and this is admittedly a very small sample size, in looking at FB the morning after, the Left has a lot of loonies too.

Now both sides seem more than willing to play the "he started it" game, which is nauseating.
So you think it's that the democrats are hiding their extremism with help from the media?

You don't think it has anything to do with the fact that the republicans appear to be lock-step together on everything and that the democrats are a very much fractured group in terms of supporting the exact same things?
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So you think it's that the democrats are hiding their extremism with help from the media?
It absolutely is. Every failure or mistake the left makes is padded or snuffed out by the media. The most recent example? Benghazi. No big deal if you watch CNN, MSNBC, Etc.

Van Jones? The most radical loon in this country, and CNN gives him a job without ever reporting on his extremist views.

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You don't think it has anything to do with the fact that the republicans appear to be lock-step together on everything and that the democrats are a very much fractured group in terms of supporting the exact same things?
You're still blaming one side for something both sides have been routinely doing. We all watch the news too. It isn't like the GOP is blocking everything and Harry Reid is standing there begging everyone to get along.
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