Official NASCAR Thread - Page 3

MikeSr619 · 06-09-10, 01:22 AM

if they dont have more horsepower they must have just evened it out because they did. about 15 horsepower more if i recall correctly.

Jugband McGillicuddy · 06-09-10, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Burgundy Burner

yes and yes.

Wow. Impressive, and at the same time, disturbing. I don't know how they expected to get away with that. I guess they were figuring they wouldn't be one of the random tear-down cars.

I love the adjustment aspect of NASCAR. Sure, the technology in F1 is far superior. The driver can basically make the car "perfect" from the cockpit. But then, anyone can drive a car that's constantly dialed in.

I have a lot more respect for a guy who's hanging it at 200+ MPH in a poorly handling race car. And I love the aspect of having to take what the driver is telling you (not telemetry) and decide what adjustments to make.

NASCAR could adopt many of the technologies currently used in F1 or IndyCar, but I am very happy that they've made sure that the crew chief and teams remain such an integral part of a driver's success.

This is just one of the many, many points that can be brought up to the "drive fast, turn lefters."

Burgundy Burner · 06-09-10, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeSr619

if they dont have more horsepower they must have just evened it out because they did. about 15 horsepower more if i recall correctly.

not at all. jgr and hms have two things down...oil and chassis. yeah, they took some hp from jgr in nationwide. noticed what happened? jgr simply refined the oil even better than before.

Jugband McGillicuddy · 06-09-10, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeSr619

if they dont have more horsepower they must have just evened it out because they did. about 15 horsepower more if i recall correctly.

As you know, HP numbers are never officially released. All of what we get in terms of dyno numbers is hearsay. Some of it is pretty good hearsay, but it's hearsay nonetheless.

(Hmm....Wonder if I could use "hearsay" one more time. Yep. Just did.)

MikeSr619 · 06-09-10, 01:28 AM

plus watching indy car is boring. they usually run single file and the passes are simple and textbook.

rubbin is racin. give me 4 wide on a 30 degree bank going 195MPH and tell me your heart doesnt get pumpin!!

Jugband McGillicuddy · 06-09-10, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Burgundy Burner

not at all. jgr and hms have two things down...oil and chassis. yeah, they took some hp from jgr in nationwide. noticed what happened? jgr simply refined the oil even better than before.

And they have better pedal magnets too.

Hey, how long do you guys figure it'll be until NASCAR Thread posts don't count?

Jugband McGillicuddy · 06-09-10, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeSr619

plus watching indy car is boring. they usually run single file and the passes are simple and textbook.

rubbin is racin. give me 4 wide on a 30 degree bank going 195MPH and tell me your heart doesnt get pumpin!!

Preach it, Reverend Mike! Preach on!!!

Burgundy Burner · 06-09-10, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by honorary_hog

Wow. Impressive, and at the same time, disturbing. I don't know how they expected to get away with that. I guess they were figuring they wouldn't be one of the random tear-down cars.

it didn't happen after the race. an official noticed it after the cars were brought down pit road just before the rain came down. the car was sitting a bit lower and they did a quick look-see. again - this is what i've heard, no confirmation yet.

MikeSr619 · 06-09-10, 01:30 AM

http://autoracingsport.com/toyota-ha...ge-at-daytona/

there are a million of them. just google toyota nascar more horespower and youll see.

like i said, it may have been resolved but it is the truth.

Jugband McGillicuddy · 06-09-10, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeSr619

http://autoracingsport.com/toyota-ha...ge-at-daytona/

there are a million of them. just google toyota nascar more horespower and youll see.

like i said, it may have been resolved but it is the truth.

Hmm....Condition of anonymity, and no numbers.

Again, NASCAR does not release dyno numbers. Anything that we get is leaked, and as you see here, generally leaked anonymously.

Which makes it what? Hearsay. Have I mentioned that yet?

Burgundy Burner · 06-09-10, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeSr619

http://autoracingsport.com/toyota-ha...ge-at-daytona/

there are a million of them. just google toyota nascar more horespower and youll see.

like i said, it may have been resolved but it is the truth.

i'm not disputing more hp - i'm tellling you how.

Jugband McGillicuddy · 06-09-10, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Burgundy Burner

it didn't happen after the race. an official noticed it after the cars were brought down pit road just before the rain came down. the car was sitting a bit lower and they did a quick look-see. again - this is what i've heard, no confirmation yet.

That's crazy if it's true. Sounds like a very, very alert official.

The anti-Jim Joyce if you will.

MikeSr619 · 06-09-10, 01:36 AM

BS man..you are really going to try and say that they dont get an unfair advantage? they were being slaughtered out there before they got that horsepower advanatage.

oh well, you can lead a hog to water and all.....

Burgundy Burner · 06-09-10, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeSr619

BS man..you are really going to try and say that they dont get an unfair advantage? they were being slaughtered out there before they got that horsepower advanatage.

oh well, you can lead a hog to water and all.....

wall st. journal - unless you think they are not a reputable outfit.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123932274269507173.html

MikeSr619 · 06-09-10, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Burgundy Burner

i'm not disputing more hp - i'm tellling you how.

ok, i get it. you arent saying they arent getting more HP but telling me that they are doing it thru chasis and oil.

gotcha...