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    Default bangor daily news: Let's just say it: the republicans are the problem

    This sums it up nicely. As the election showed, the general public doesn't side with the right's obstructionist policies and pextreme olarization.

    http://bangordailynews.com/2012/04/28/opinion/lets-just-say-it-the-republicans-are-the-problem/
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    First off, Allen West did not say they were communists. He said they were socialists, and he was correct.

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2010...-their-caucus/

    The Socialist Party of America announced in their October 2009 newsletter that 70 Congressional democrats currently belong to their caucus.
    This admission was recently posted on Scribd.com:

    American Socialist Voter–
    Q: How many members of the U.S. Congress are also members of the DSA?
    A: Seventy

    Q: How many of the DSA members sit on the Judiciary Committee?
    A: Eleven: John Conyers [Chairman of the Judiciary Committee], Tammy Baldwin, Jerrold Nadler, Luis Gutierrez,
    Melvin Watt, Maxine Waters, Hank Johnson, Steve Cohen, Barbara Lee, Robert Wexler, Linda Sanchez [there are 23 Democrats on the Judiciary Committee of which eleven, almost half, are now members of the DSA].

    So right off the bat, this shows me that the two idiots from the Washington Compost that wrote this crap are just spreading democrat lies and don't have a clue what they are talking about.



    But hey, great. Legalize EVERYTHING. To hell with all rules and laws. If it feels good, do it. Tell everyone in Mexico just to pack up and settle into our schools. Make cocaine and other drugs comepletely legal. Make banging your dog legal too.

    That's what idiots like these want anyways
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanky Livingston View Post
    This sums it up nicely. As the election showed, the general public doesn't side with the right's obstructionist policies and pextreme olarization
    Oh really? Then explain the landslide in the House elections? Last night proved nothing more than what a bunch of fools the American voting public is. As a country we voted to keep the government exactly the way it's been during these 4 years of gridlock. Proof that we as Americans are every bit as stupid as the rest of the world says we are.
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    Man I really loved Serv's cartoon he posted in the poll thread.
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    And the brainwashing intensifies, and continues. Who sits in the White House is now firmly in control of the media. Next up, Congress.

    Please, please, please, bring on the fiscal cliff, so I don't have to start voting Democrat across the board. It's the only hope for the country.

    And Lanky, a couple handfuls of cities, and it goes the other way. What would that election have showed?
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    Almost everyone can declare a victory of sorts this election.

    Obama won... victory for Democrats
    More Republican Governors... victory for GOP
    Women won... more female Senators than in any time in history
    Senate Races... Dems won... 23 Dem seats contested and only ten Repub ones and the Dems wind up plus two.
    Independents won getting their second member in the Senate.
    Libertarians can even claim a win with Johnson getting a million votes AND marijuana proposals passing in two states.

    If any side is trumpeting victory this go around they're being a bit silly.
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    i can't speak to the entire article, but i did read this part and thought it was spot on:
    "The GOP has become an insurgent outlier in American politics. It is ideologically extreme; scornful of compromise; unmoved by conventional understanding of facts, evidence and science; and dismissive of the legitimacy of its political opposition."

    you see it in all the threads post election. if you're not towing the GOP line it's because you're stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tshile View Post
    i can't speak to the entire article, but i did read this part and thought it was spot on:
    "The GOP has become an insurgent outlier in American politics. It is ideologically extreme; scornful of compromise; unmoved by conventional understanding of facts, evidence and science; and dismissive of the legitimacy of its political opposition."

    you see it in all the threads post election. if you're not towing the GOP line it's because you're stupid.
    The same can be said about both sides, it's a propaganda fluff piece T.
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    Yeah, the anti science and educational elements are particularly disturbing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Extreme View Post
    The same can be said about both sides, it's a propaganda fluff piece T.
    No. It can't. That's not to suggest the democrats are perfect, they clearly aren't.

    But the problems that plague the democratic party are not the same as the ones that plague the republican party.

    and people on either side using the other's problems as justification of their own just don't get it and probably never will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by burgold View Post
    Yeah, the anti science and educational elements are particularly disturbing.
    I remember when someone here argued with me what logic was... that somehow I had made it up, or something...

    it plagues the party. disturbing is a good way of describing it.

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    I (wait for it. Wait for it) agree with Extreme. It is a problem that plagues both parties, albeit in slightly different forms. The Dems do a slightly better job of hiding their extremists (quite frankly probably due to some help from the media) than the GOP does. But, and this is admittedly a very small sample size, in looking at FB the morning after, the Left has a lot of loonies too.

    Now both sides seem more than willing to play the "he started it" game, which is nauseating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goaldeje View Post
    I (wait for it. Wait for it) agree with Extreme. It is a problem that plagues both parties, albeit in slightly different forms. The Dems do a slightly better job of hiding their extremists (quite frankly probably due to some help from the media) than the GOP does. But, and this is admittedly a very small sample size, in looking at FB the morning after, the Left has a lot of loonies too.

    Now both sides seem more than willing to play the "he started it" game, which is nauseating.
    So you think it's that the democrats are hiding their extremism with help from the media?

    You don't think it has anything to do with the fact that the republicans appear to be lock-step together on everything and that the democrats are a very much fractured group in terms of supporting the exact same things?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goaldeje View Post
    I (wait for it. Wait for it) agree with Extreme.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tshile View Post
    So you think it's that the democrats are hiding their extremism with help from the media?
    It absolutely is. Every failure or mistake the left makes is padded or snuffed out by the media. The most recent example? Benghazi. No big deal if you watch CNN, MSNBC, Etc.

    Van Jones? The most radical loon in this country, and CNN gives him a job without ever reporting on his extremist views.

    Quote Originally Posted by tshile View Post
    You don't think it has anything to do with the fact that the republicans appear to be lock-step together on everything and that the democrats are a very much fractured group in terms of supporting the exact same things?
    You're still blaming one side for something both sides have been routinely doing. We all watch the news too. It isn't like the GOP is blocking everything and Harry Reid is standing there begging everyone to get along.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tshile View Post
    So you think it's that the democrats are hiding their extremism with help from the media?

    You don't think it has anything to do with the fact that the republicans appear to be lock-step together on everything and that the democrats are a very much fractured group in terms of supporting the exact same things?
    No. I think the media is quick to shine a light on the Akins of the GOP - the loonies who make the whole party seem bad by extension. Now granted the party should have distanced themselves from all that crap much more emphatically and quickly, but let's face it, most GOP'ers don't believe the whole legitimate rape thing. And I'm sure the Right will tell you that the media was calculating how to paint them in the worst light; I'm not willing to go that far, but the amount of attention those morons got rubbed off negatively on the rest of the Republicans to some extent.

    I will agree with your second paragraph completely, however. The Republican leadership is exceptionally organized. The Dem are... not. Maybe all off smoking pot? I don't know. But for better, or in this case worse, the leadership of the GOP demands complete subservience to their ideals. So yeah sure, that hurt as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Extreme View Post
    It absolutely is. Every failure or mistake the left makes is padded or snuffed out by the media. The most recent example? Benghazi. No big deal if you watch CNN, MSNBC, Etc.

    Van Jones? The most radical loon in this country, and CNN gives him a job without ever reporting on his extremist views.
    CNN covered it pretty well. I have to question how often you watch CNN if you think they covered it up...

    It's kind of like all the republicans who are experts on the Daily show yet have never watched an actual episode.

    Quote Originally Posted by Extreme View Post
    You're still blaming one side for something both sides have been routinely doing. We all watch the news too. It isn't like the GOP is blocking everything and Harry Reid is standing there begging everyone to get along.
    Your quote doesn't really seem to match up with the part of my post you quoted from me. Is there some sort of misunderstanding here? Did you quote the wrong thing? I wasn't blaming anyone for anything, I was pointing out an observation about both parties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tshile View Post
    CNN covered it pretty well. I have to question how often you watch CNN if you think they covered it up...
    Glen Beck was blasting Van Jones every day on Fox for over a year before his name was ever whispered on CNN. The first time they ever brought his name up, I was watching. They admitted they were discussing him, because some viewers had been curious and wanted a side other than Glen beck's. So they gave their fluff piece of the "real" van Jones. He wasn't an extremist, he was just fighting for what he believed in. They didn't even mention the fact he was a member of the Communist Party of America. They fluffed it up to old goofy crackpot Glen beck trying to make something out of nothing. And I'll tell you what, if they reported his actual life story, and showed the videos and audio Fox did, even CNN would never have given him a job.

    Quote Originally Posted by tshile View Post
    It's kind of like all the republicans who are experts on the Daily show yet have never watched an actual episode.
    Oh, you mean the minority? There's too many self righteous people like you who have yourself convinced that anyone who doesn't do something by your standards couldn't possibly have done it. For example, I have watched the Daily Show for years. I find it hilarious. I have seen many episodes in their entirety. But when I point out that you don't need to watch more than 5 minutes to get the message, people like you immediately say I can't know what I'm talking about and I've never watched an episode.

    Basically, if it takes you a whole episode to see the message of the show, it's because you're a moron.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Extreme View Post
    Glen Beck was blasting Van Jones every day on Fox for over a year before his name was ever whispered on CNN. The first time they ever brought his name up, I was watching. They admitted they were discussing him, because some viewers had been curious and wanted a side other than Glen beck's. So they gave their fluff piece of the "real" van Jones. He wasn't an extremist, he was just fighting for what he believed in. They didn't even mention the fact he was a member of the Communist Party of America. They fluffed it up to old goofy crackpot Glen beck trying to make something out of nothing. And I'll tell you what, if they reported his actual life story, and showed the videos and audio Fox did, even CNN would never have given him a job.
    I'm confused as to what that has to do with how CNN covered the bengahzi issue and whether or not you actually watched the channel.

    Quote Originally Posted by Extreme View Post
    Oh, you mean the minority? There's too many self righteous people like you who have yourself convinced that anyone who doesn't do something by your standards couldn't possibly have done it. For example, I have watched the Daily Show for years. I find it hilarious. I have seen many episodes in their entirety. But when I point out that you don't need to watch more than 5 minutes to get the message, people like you immediately say I can't know what I'm talking about and I've never watched an episode.

    Basically, if it takes you a whole episode to see the message of the show, it's because you're a moron.
    And I would say if you think the show has any sort of political message then you're a moron.
    You have to watch more than 5 minutes of it and assume not every piece of media is designed to influence your political opinions though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tshile View Post
    And I would say if you think the show has any sort of political message then you're a moron.
    And I would say if you think the show has no political message then you're a moron. And far more people agree with me according to the polls and research on the topic.
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