Did Andre Collins ever score on a PAT recovery?

[honorary_hog]

OK guys, I need your help.

I have a very foggy memory of Andre Collins returning a fumbled snap or something for a score on a PAT, and being awarded one point. I can't find any evidence anywhere that it happened. And no one at the other place seemed to recall it.

Does anyone out there recall anything like this? It's been bugging me for a few days.

[Om]

From the NFL Digest of Rules (http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/try)

Try

After a touchdown, the scoring team is allowed a try during one scrimmage down. The ball may be spotted anywhere between the inbounds lines, two or more yards from the goal line. The successful conversion counts one point by kick; two points for a successful conversion by touchdown; or one point for a safety.

The defensive team never can score on a try. As soon as defense gets possession or the kick is blocked or a touchdown is not scored, the try is over.

Any distance penalty for fouls committed by the defense that prevent the try from being attempted can be enforced on the succeeding try or succeeding kickoff. Any foul committed on a successful try will result in a distance penalty being assessed on the ensuing kickoff.

Only the fumbling player can recover and advance a fumble during a try.
Not sure what you're remembering, brother. And I don't think this rule has changed since then, even with the addition of the 2-pointer.

Maybe Andre picked up a blocked PAT or fumbled snap and ran the other way to "finish the play" as players often do even after an apparent whistle?

[Lanky Livingston]

Its possible in college he could have returned a blocked PAT for 2 points, if they used him on defense in those situations. However I'm 99% sure that any kick, in any league, once attempted (including if it is blocked) is a change of possession or end of the play if the offense picks it up. For example, if a field goal is blocked, but the ball makes it past the first down marker, and an offensive player recovers it, its still the other team's ball. Same goes for PATs.

From Wiki: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-point_conversion#Defensive_two-point_conversion)

Defensive two-point conversion

In American college and Canadian football (as well as, for a significant period of time, the Arena Football League, where missed extra points are rebounded back into the field of play), an intercepted two-point attempt, or one otherwise recovered by the defense, or a blocked extra point kick, can be returned to the other end zone to give the defensive team two points. However the ball is dead upon an interception in the NFL.

[honorary_hog]

I guess I have to admit defeat on this one. If I dreamt it, the details I still remember are pretty amazing....Madden and Summerall calling it a touchdown, only to explain later that the defense only has the opportunity to score as many points as the offense does, so he only got one point.

But obviously, if the "Omacle" doesn't remember it, I'm wrong. Thanks for the response guys, and sorry to post such a stupid question in this forum. I'll do better next time! :toilet: :laugh:

[redskins26]

Dont worry HH your not the only one that has thought this has happened before I thought i seen it in the 80s

[honorary_hog]

Dont worry HH your not the only one that has thought this has happened before I thought i seen it in the 80s

Thanks, two-six. I really don't understand it. The memory fragments I have left are crystal clear. I don't think it was a dream. But someone would have remembered it, had it actually happened. Oh well.

[Lanky Livingston]

So...still unconvinced, hog?

[honorary_hog]

So...still unconvinced, hog?

No, I'm clearly wrong Jaimie. But I'm sure as hell confused about the pieces of that "memory" I have.

[Lanky Livingston]

No, I'm clearly wrong Jaimie. But I'm sure as hell confused about the pieces of that "memory" I have.

Hmmm...wish I could help. I have no memory of the play you're referring too. Maybe he caught a blocked PAT, ran it in, but it was waived off? I dunno...

[Skinsfan1311]

I remember him scoring off of a Brett Favre INT, but that's about it.....

[servumtuum]

HH, since this thread got bumped. I decided to do some digging.

According to Pro-Football Reference in the 1994 Tampa Bay game Collins intercepted a Craig Erikson pass and ran it 92 yards for a TD. Could that be what you might be remembering?

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/199412040tam.htm